I think that I'm in a bit of a different boat from most guys you'll have this discussion with. Hope this response helps clarifies my position:
Sex with chicks I think are cute and/or hot.
I plan on leaving this country in a little under 2 years so I'm not really after a relationship. Don't get me wrong though, it would be nice and I'm not against one, but if I'm 'single' for those 2 years then I'll be perfectly happy as long as I'm getting laid along the way.
Last time I was online I got what I wanted as well as settled. I was able to squeeze in 3 weeks of online dating before I got flagged (nothing I was doing on the apps, it was all from previous life crap). Since it was even tinier an area than when I originally tried it I'm very curious what the results would be now that I'm in KC...
Sadly that test likely won't be happening. Oh well...
If I get laid then I'm satisfied with the process. If I'm not getting laid that's when I'm unhappy with the process. Although there are grey areas.
For example, Daygame for these past two weeks has resulted in a few dates. Since I see improvement I'm not
as concerned with it. But if I ever stall on those results then I'll be unhappy with it. Even now, I'm not happy with what I'm getting from it. But I am content since I'm seeing improvement.
Haha I work on improving, testing and tweaking EVERYTHING!
That's why I love online dating so much. I've got my system where I just plug it in and watch it go! Pretty much the only tweaks I can make nowadays is in the pictures. Sadly I didn't get a chance to role out my newest pictures I took this year
I do have fun. When I'm getting laid.
If I'm not getting laid then I'm not having fun.
I'm really
THAT simple.
I halfway expect myself to be dead before 60... so I don't even think about it.
Poppycock!
There's always MORE to do with your pictures. Better quality, different poses, different outfits.
I've even experimented with something as stupidly simple as changing the brightness of the same picture and running those different versions through a few times. Though those tests were before I got some really good pictures. I never got the chance to re-do them with better pictures.
But that also includes changing the temperature of pictures. Also, the contrast (initial, small testing indicates that chicks don't like the contrast like I'm in love with, but again, much more testing needs to be done).
Then there's other stuff like, what kind of hobbies to include as well as different colors of your background!
There's SO MUCH that you can test lol. And I always got excited about seeing the results of those tests. I greatly enjoyed it.
But again, when a test came back negative I was always perturbed.
100% agree
And it can become a crutch. For example, I'm noticing a few cracks within my daygame dates. There definitely is a different 'feel' with them. Online dates were easier and simpler in my opinion. Same thing when you go on dates having already established authority of some kind (for example, the strip club I went to and started dating one of the strippers as well as going to different swing dance events where I have instant authority having been a teacher in the past).
So I do enjoy the process of testing, tweaking and trying things. But no sex = frustration.
I do have a little bit of fun with daygame since I'm seeing progress. But there's still ultimately that little bit of frustration and annoyance as well. Especially when I actually like a girl's personality and it doesn't work out.
Example, coffee shop girl that I brought back to my place and got close to sex but it didn't happen. I'll never hear from her again.
Same thing goes with a girl from last night that I think I may have already messed up on. Time will tell but I don't think that one's going to happen either but we'll see.
That shit irritates me. But it's balanced out by a sense of progression as well as the fact that there's more to test. So I'm not exactly on a plateau with it which helps.
And again, I think we agree on just about everything you're talking about. Guys do get too comfortable with online, and many, many men out there just default to it without seeing even moderate results. That hurts them.
So yeah, I don't feel like you've bashed anything, personally. I just wanted to speak up about the enjoying taking an active part in your life part in case anyone felt the same. Because I don't take enjoyment from the grind. It's annoying actually.
But that's just me.