i think you
@naturalmikey have a valid position with your natural method. Keeping things simple is something that frankly
I should have listened to when I started out. But I also don’t think you are actually aware of how “techniques” form.
A technique is an abstraction/concept, that is to say, a set of symbols (words) you interpret based off your imagination and experiences. Everything you are reading on your screen is an abstraction and is thus prone to miscommunication. Abstractions are taken from experience, not the other way around. It is impossible to derive experience from an abstraction. Because of this, when you have foreign concepts in your head - like a routine or guideline - and you try to act it out, it is often no different than making noises with your mouth. There is no or little personal experience associated with the routine you are trying to say (assuming it was found somewhere online or in a book) so the sounds you make with your mouth as well as your body language become
incongruent - you are basically acting like a bad liar or actor.
For this reason, it’s best to keep your mind focused on basic things since thinking about too much can cause you to come off as a liar or a manipulator or gamey. On the other hand, techniques have the benefit of already having the problem solved for you. This is how all techniques come to be. Like the technique of using an observation rather than a direct opener - this came about through trial and error. Or the technique of not saying “wanna go back to my place and fuck?” five minutes into the conversation if at all. This is something that is learned through the experience of other men. Any time you
consciously correct your behavior, you are attempting to adhere to an abstract motive, guideline or script, hence a
technique. Something as simple as “don’t call the girl a whore if she joked you” becomes a technique the moment you first do that and then realize afterwards that it was a dumb idea. Techniques exist as a way to
communicate behavior. Internal subconscious experiences and habits are not known to anyone but yourself; the moment you speak or write down those experiences, which inherently happens on a forum, you are creating a technique or method. When I
read your posts, I
cannot know precisely what you are talking about; I have to use my previous experiences and my
imagination in order to understand what you are physically doing. For this reason, when you say “fundamentals” this is open to a variety of interpretations.
The internet is biased towards the written format, hence words and techniques. So when you do not describe something with great clarity, expect everyone to misinterpret you. Now, I’m not saying
you don’t write with clarity, but any
natural method is by its nature unclear because it’s emphasis is to minimize or ditch concepts (like routines or guidelines) altogether, and you
cannot communicate information on a forum or in books without concepts (hence the appeal of picture books, movies and video games).
Literally one thing you can do right now is write detailed FR/LRs that do not detail your method, but just what your doing and feeling and why did what you did. If I had your experience that is what I would do. You need to accept that on the internet you need to clearly describe what you are doing in order for people to know what you are talking about - but you will see that by communicating “do this over this” or “say this over that” or even “think this thought over that thought” (since the formation of thoughts are actions too) you will inevitably form techniques, some more difficult and important to do over others; those that are more difficult and significant to do to get a desired result are called “advanced techniques”.
FYI I do know gen z girls know what incels, alphas and betas are lmao. I’ve heard those words mentioned by gen z chicks several times.
And you know what, any Elder or Guru level guy is invited to meet up with me in Oslo, Norway. So we can see whether I am actually sub-average 
