The Re-Education of Karea Ricardus D.

Karea Ricardus D.

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Hired Gun Game (stripclub)

I guess this post doesn’t really count. Does stripper game count if you don't buy a dance? The PUAs used to have seminars on this. Is that still a thing? It’s obviously way different from cold approach. Either way I figured I’d journal it just for fun.

Life’s been throwing curve balls non stop, no free time since my last post. So this week I took at least an hour off to go to a strip club and soak up some feminine vibes. I’m in Western Europe, so not the kind of venue that sells pussy. Girls only sell lapdances, and I didn’t buy one. But it was a lot of fun and very motivating.

Dismissed 2 strippers I wasn’t that into, then chatted the stunner of the place. Ran my stack up to C1 on her for practice. Held control of the frame by steering all conversational threads. Made fun of her a bunch (with a big smile), cold read her (with every coldread being a useful frame), generally kept conversation unique - no average Joe chat.

I did have to buy drinks because the place was packed. I guess the freebie stripper game is for off hours only? I should review the hired gun stuff from MM. I don’t care about the money, more about the frame. I guess I could have been a bit more dismissive to her early touching. Though there wasn’t that much of that fake stripper shit.

Set my usual frames. Built a little social proof with two girls who were sitting next to us (female customers in the strip club). Made the waiter laugh when he served us. Built some physical compliance, too. When I got to the big hoops, she qualified herself hard, so... good sign.

After half an hour she left with something to the effect of “well you don’t seem like the kinda guy who would buy a lapdance… I gotta go make some money”. Ha! Can never tell with these bishes until you actually close, but she seemed into it. I think the IOIs were legit… she called me on my shit once or twice too.

I don’t count this as a set btw. But it was a lot of fun and good practice. She was fucking gorgeous guys! Ugh. Shame I didn’t have 4 hours with her to see how much more compliance I can build (i.e, sex). I would have attempted a time bridge but I was only in town for a few hours. Life’s been hectic.

I’m going to make a very serious attempt here at going out 3 times a week like I did when I was good at this.

What a babe, that girl. My mind still lingers.

Extremely motivating evening.

-Karea Ricardus D.
 

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Fun time! She had to have been enjoying it if she stuck around 30 minutes not getting paid on a busy night.

I've never been real into strippers but I read a few of the guides from back in the day out of curiosity and ran some stripper game a couple of times. One remark that might be helpful if you do this again:

After half an hour she left with something to the effect of “well you don’t seem like the kinda guy who would buy a lapdance… I gotta go make some money”. Ha! Can never tell with these bishes until you actually close, but she seemed into it. I think the IOIs were legit… she called me on my shit once or twice too.

You can pre-empt this by telling her at a certain point (before the conversation starts inflating / it's run on too long) that you know she needs to work and basically sending her off to go find a guy who'll pay her. Ideal is if she's going off, getting paid by guys, then returning back to you to socialize/flirt between customers because they're work and you're play.

You can buy drinks at the bar, btw. The rule is just "don't spend money on the girls", because as soon as you do that you're in the customer frame.

Ones I've been to it's definitely a lot tougher on busier nights. The girls there are in "get bank" mode... busy nights are when they make most of their coin. They really need to be efficient. So if you wanted to do this more, I'd probably go on the off-nights.

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Fun time! She had to have been enjoying it if she stuck around 30 minutes not getting paid on a busy night.
Yeah man... there was a while in the conversation when the vibe shifted totally and it was like... ON. I'm not sure if I kept that momentum going tight to the end (bit of a sticking point lately). A time bridge may or may not have worked. But at one moment I thought holy shit... this game shit is some powerful voodoo. She came over thinking "I'll extract some cash from this guy"... and a few verbal jiu-jiutsu moves later she's thinking "wow this guy's cool, I'm into him".
You can pre-empt this by telling her at a certain point (before the conversation starts inflating / it's run on too long) that you know she needs to work and basically sending her off to go find a guy who'll pay her. Ideal is if she's going off, getting paid by guys, then returning back to you to socialize/flirt between customers because they're work and you're play.
Yeahhh. That's it. I think best done after at least one very solid compliance loop. Where she has showed genuine interest, proven that interest by complying with a fairly large hoop, and got rewarded with some sincere compliment. Ideally more often, but at least once.

Then once the vibe shifts to "we actually like each other"... then break what's left of the customer frame totally by shooing her off. "Run along now, you gotta go make some money little girl."
You can buy drinks at the bar, btw. The rule is just "don't spend money on the girls", because as soon as you do that you're in the customer frame.
Yeah. Well, I did buy drinks for both of us. I think required to get the foot in the door on such a busy night. Not sure. I also think I kinda busted out of the customer frame. She took her time with her drink and never asked me to buy more crap or dances. Plus obviously her comment at the end.

I think the way to overcome the customer frame is by acting like the expense is nothing, like she's asking me for a chewing gum. Hmmm, even better, I could have held out a compliance hoop for her to jump through first and earn the drink. Then move on to generally treating her like my bratty little sister as we used to say, and building more compliance.
Ones I've been to it's definitely a lot tougher on busier nights. The girls there are in "get bank" mode... busy nights are when they make most of their coin. They really need to be efficient.
Yeah. I'm just thinking if I really wanted to game this kind of situation properly, I'd start by doing what I did this week once, with the modifications discussed above. And as Erik did, befriend the guys who work there, come in from time to time to chat with the guys and have a drink.

Then when she's around, tease her a bunch and eventually when there's enough familiarity, tell her to join some group thing I'm organizing. From there it should be a downhill battle, especially if that group thing has lots of my female friends around.
 

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I've had the biggest epiphany about game since I developed the X-Factor drills in 2010. [...] I call it TAF - True Alpha Formula... and I'm working on it feverishly.
Here's a little preview of what I've been working on:


By the way I'm not setting up to sell a course, in case anyone is wondering. I neither need to nor want to make money by coaching pickup. I'll share it all for free when it's ready (if and when I can prove it to work in the real world).

My goal is to prove that an average looking guy in his 40s can date lots of stunners in their 20s without using money. I have my work cut out for myself yes? Fun times.

-Karea Ricardus.
 

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Current Obstacles and Sticking Points

I'm posting this because there's been some talk lately about how hard life is and how many obstacles there are and should we just give up? One thread suggested giving up on women totally. Another post suggested settling for some random girl, better than being alone for the next 30 years. A few people suggested mail order bride style stuff or moving to a place where women are financially desperate and maybe one of those will be okay.

My life's been a huge mess the past few years. Ironic cause I thought once I got the business sorted, all else will be easy! Turned out not to be the case, surprise surprise! I think life hasn't been easy for anyone especially the past 2-3 years with all that's been going on in the world. I also mentioned on another thread the "self-help mindset". NEVER giving up. Staying positive. Staying focused on the goal, not the problems. Keeping the nose to the grindstone. Working like a psychotic animal to solve all the issues that are keeping us from the life we want.

We have to take problems one at a time and hammer them into submission mercilessly. Here are mine.

1. Lack of Continuity

Main issue the past 3 months. I've been working on a few projects that required a lot of travel, often daily. I've changed countries 8 times since last field report. Dozens of airbnbs. Like with the gym, going for 3 days and then stopping again isn't going to get great results.

Also, the game I'm working on requires building a social circle. That's going to take at least 3-6 months in one single place. I think I can wrap up the projects that require all this travel in the next 6 weeks and then get settled somewhere for a longer time and build up some momentum.

2. Health Issue (insomnia)

Mentioned this before so I won't belabor it. It's basically a condition that causes debilitating insomnia. No sleep = brain fog, no energy, certainly no charisma or ability to game. I had it in check for a while but it's been causing lots of problems again lately.

I'm working on solutions all the time. Keep doing research on it, protocols that promise to fix it, implement them one by one. I'm not going to stop trying different solutions until one of them works. If you suffer from insomnia too feel free to shoot me a PM.

3. Fitness

All the travel has caused me to put on weight again. It's not a major issue but a little frustrating. Also, being in shape isn't strictly a requirement for game, but girls do like it, and it generally makes us feel better and hence come across better. At my peak I was ripped as. It also helps with confidence obviously.

4. Style

Not horrible but could use an upgrade. The clothes I have now are cool enough but they don't stand out or look very sexualized. I'll make this a priority too but combine it with field-work. Whenever I can get back in field, I'll just buy one item a day while out.

"This dream of mine, it's so close... I can touch it." - Al Pacino, Carlito's Way

Finally, writing this post was probably also a bit of what the self-help industry calls creative avoidance. I.e. coming up with something creative to do that seems productive but actually avoids facing the issues head on, and working on them. So, having this kind of self-awareness helps too and recognizing when we're not doing the things that would actually move us closer to our goals, yes?

With that said, I'll stay off the boards until I can fix at least items 1 and 2 on this list and get my ass back in field. Cause that's truly ALL we're really here for, yes?

Signing off for now.

-Karea Ricardus.
 

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I now believe it's a mistake to start learning game via cold approach. It shouldn't be the first phase in the evolution of a PUA, it should be like the 7th phase or something.
I just wrote a primer on this (click) for new member raiden. So much pain on these boards! What is going on! Wow. The state of dating these days! I'm now doubly motivated to fix my dating life. I have to do it for my own sake, but I also want to help fix some of the problems guys are having.

I saw one post recently where someone said "game doesn't work anymore"... but then he broke down some of his interactions, and he was doing things that would never have worked! Not 10 years ago, not 20 years ago. (Sorry).
Vision said:
I constantly run into people who doubt the legitimacy of pickup. They think that it might not really work. And guys go out and half ass everything and when they don’t get the results that others who plunge head first into it do, they create even more doubt in their minds until they come to a false conclusion: there’s something fundamentally wrong with them.
From this post from 2008 (click). So you can see, we had these same guys back then who said "game doesn't work", all that jazz. I want to get to a point where I have recent LRs so I can speak with more authority about this stuff.

That said, we KNOW all this shit still works cause we have plenty of guys right on this forum still doing it. And they're doing exactly what we did back in the day. Teevster broke down his game recently and the overall structure was Dallas crew to a tee.
Teevster said:
  1. The goal is to escalate the vibe (from social to sexual), and escalate things logistically (isolate, isolate more, extract...)
  2. In order to accomplish this, you need:
a. Focus on sexual frames in order to 1. up compliance, 2 sexualize things, 3. make her comfortable as early as possible with the idea of you as a sexual guys (as early as you can, not earlier)
b. Focus on social frames, in order to make her more easily accept the sexual frames.

=>Both these will increase the compliance and lower the resistance to getting isolated and eventually extracted by you. It will also allow you to smoothly escalate the vibe to sex with less resistance.
Anyway. This post more creative avoidance? I guess guys. Life's been pretty shit lately. But I'm gonna log off right after this and tackle that shit head on!

I was reading my own approach journal from 2009 and my dedication to going out was just next level. It was a grind at first but you know what. I can't wait to get back to that grind.

Let's go beast mode on this bitch!

-Karea Ricardus.
 
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Warming up again… I was able to set some time aside for game. Let’s see one more time if I can still do this, huh? Starting slow to get into the groove. Baby steps.

FR: MMF-3-set

Dressed up and went to a social gathering. That means t-shirt that stands out plus a cool jacket. Two rings, leather bracelet, interesting watch, a few other things I won’t mention cause would be identifying. I need to lose some more weight so my most sylish jeans fit again. Need new shoes for sure. Haircut and dying my hair would help too. Maybe add a necklace.

There was an MF 2-set, a blonde girl and a guy. I sat down near them and looked over some papers I had with me (my gameplan... haa), in my own world. Got up to get something from my car and when I came back, the guy had taken my seat, so I told him “hey you’re in my seat” with a smile, as a pre-opener.

He was about to get up and I told him I was just kidding. Sat down near them again and rolled off (i.e. stopped talking to them more). When a set is stationary like that, I like to initiate a number of times and roll off each time because it gives a vibe of the conversation just happened, rather than that I *wanted* to talk to them.

During a lull in their conversation, I re-opened by asking if they were going to the festival that’s currently going on in town. Chatted a while and found out they weren’t a couple, but the blonde’s boy-friend was about to arrive. So I decided to pawn them, bounce them to a restaurant as I hadn’t eaten and then to the festival for social proof to game there.

All went well except at the festival, the music was so loud that my voice didn’t last 5 minutes. Wow! Not used to noisy places anymore. I guess the vocal chords are a muscle and if you don’t strain them in a long time they get weak. I wasn’t able to speak over the music so bounced them to a quieter bar which had no targets but whatever.

This was a good reminder of why I stopped doing nightgame in 2007. I just don’t really like the whole shouting to be heard thing. I see the upside, slutty girls dressed up obviously wanting it… and all the social proof benefits. But yeah I’m gonna go back to my bread and butter and focus on daygame again for a while at least. Also don’t like waking up so late, I got shit to do.

Follow up on the Strip Club game… I bought the latest MM video course and reviewed the strip club game they’re teaching. It’s really brilliant… almost makes me wanna move to a city with a lot of strip clubs and focus on that for a while. Most interesting for me, they said you can’t believe any stripper IOIs except “not asking for a dance”, that one is a certain IOI. So guess I was on the right track there.

Follow up on health and business obstacles… I traveled to another city to see a specialist on my health issue. He said he’s never seen bloodwork like mine… he was surprised I’m alive. Well, that sucks. Gave me a bunch or protocols to try and fix all that which I’m working on. As for the business project, all urgent stuff is wrapped up and the rest is on hold for a while. I may have some free time to work on my game… let’s see.
 

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Travel picked up again right after the previous post... I'm in a new city now, hopefully I can stay here and start building a social circle and do approaches. I don't know a soul here... I've been emailing with a friend of a friend who's going to help me with the business project I'm here for... but that's it. So hopefully this will be a great case study for those who currently have nothing going in their city.

A friend recommended a dating site he'd used and I was like... is that still a thing? Made a profile and it's pretty dead. Seems like all girls under 35 are on tinder, not dating sites these days. Been chatting with one serious cutie 16 years my junior and got her way into me, she wants to meet up now but she lives a world away. Was still kinda fun, online game the old-days way, before the swiping apps.

Today's mood:


P.S. I owe a few of you PM responses, apologies for the delay... I will get to that soon.
 
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I now believe it's a mistake to start learning game via cold approach. It shouldn't be the first phase in the evolution of a PUA, it should be like the 7th phase or something. So I'm going to put my approaches on pause for a little while and come back to approach journaling when I'm ready.

I believe starting a game education with cold approach gets guys stuck in either "high beta" or "fake alpha" rather than "true alpha". It's kind of ass backwards. I will post definitions for these terms soon along with a better approach.
Can you expand on that?
 

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Can you expand on that?
I have a giant article series about that in my head that I'm going to have to type up at some point... in essence I think a lot of guys don't have enough of a social life when they get into PUA, which is why they have bad social skills, why they're not getting laid, and why they're finding out about PUA in the first place.

I think it's better to start building really good social skills first, or at least parallel to the PUA drills. Definitely get good social skills before messing with direct game or street stops. Have a social circle including female friends. I've always done this and it's important... if you're a loner it'll come through and it's very unattractive to women.

I'd also position myself as the leader of that social circle, which is something I learned more about after I quit the game, so I'll write about that in the future... it's easy to do if you follow certain steps. I'll write more about that when I have time. I wrote a 30k foot view of it in response to some other members:

 

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Hi. Is this forum still going? Wow, time flies. I'll just post a quick update.

Health SNAFU

My health is still mega fucked... I didn't think it would be this bad when I started this thread. I went to see two specialists and they were both shocked when they saw my blood work. One said he's surprised I'm alive. I don't think I'll regain former PUA glory until I'm healthy, but I try to do what I can when I can.

Back in field, major AA

Started going out again and realized the long hiatus gave me as much AA as when I was a daygame newbie. I was literally out 5 times chatting up all kinds of random people, but no hot girls. Finally decided I gotta eat the humble pie and go back to newbie drills. Specifically (1) asking 5 girls where to buy some item, and (2) running a proper opener and transition on 3 girls I'm not attracted to. That worked to beat the AA.

Set 1 - receptionist

Checked into a hotel, and the receptionist was a cutie, but very business-like and matter of fact, no IOIs from her. So I turned to her colleague, chatted her some, threw some DHVs, then turned back to the girl I liked and started making fun of her a bit. Repeated the same process a bit later... talked to another guy who worked there, and playfully put down my target for him to laugh at her.

After that it was pretty on, my target actually started touching me and became almost over-the-top flirtatious. Wow. I set another DHV with my website which I baited her into asking for, so she's now browsing that and I took off. I'll see if I can follow up on this set... I have a sticking point where I feel self conscious going into my real game (sexual framing or even time bridging) with other people around.

Set 2 - seated lone wolf turns into 2-set

This was the only proper cold approach of the day because it hooked great and ended up taking all day. I sat down next to my target, acted like I'm doing something on my phone and after a few minutes opened indirect. Got a good vibe and was about to get into my real material (cold reading, teasing, framing, qualification, etc.). But then her friend showed up and talked to her, kinda ignoring me.

I let that go on for a minute and then asked for an introduction and took over the conversation. That worked great, end I ended up hooking both girls and was with them for the rest of the day. Was thinking what to do as 2 sets are tricky. I think there are a few ways to play it... best is probably to qualify the target through the obstacle, but I didn't have the balls to do that... need more momentum for such tricks.

I decided to just roll with it for a while and see if the obstacle splits. If not I can take a swipe at the target alone another day, or I can pawn them both for social proof later. We ended up talking for a couple of hours and then walked around some and lost my target in the crowd. I'm starting to wonder if the obstacle did that deliberately cause she was interested in me.

When I was alone with the obstacle, I kept second guessing if I should make a play for her. She's kinda cute too, but I prefer the other one. Finally I decided to leave it up to her and basically gave her two options of what to do next... one of which was going back to mine to chat more and have some wine. It took her quite a while to decide lol, but she took the other option. Not surprising since I hadn't actually gamed her in any way, just conversation.

Well, that was a lot of fun. It's good to be back out there. We'll see if my health cooperates but as always, I'll try to keep going here. I'll just do what I can when I can while I'm healing.
 
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Ugh, this forum is too addictive! I spent hours and hours on GC chat the past couple of days. It's so cool that there is still ONE place on the internet that has real PUAs who understand the old school stuff we did back in the day, but it's become too much of a distraction.

I'm banning myself from the forum until I've done more approaches. New rule: each hour of forum time must be earned by 1. at least an outing report with 2. at least one approach.

Talk to y'all cats soon!

-Karea.
 

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Wednesday FR: Pickup gas station cashier

I went to my local gas station to buy some bakeries. The cashier is a hottie and I've had my eye on her for a while, but it's a really busy gas station so there's never been any time to talk to her. Last night it was raining so there was a little less foot traffic. They were out of the buns I wanted so she said: "If you want to wait I can make some for you... it'll be like 6 minutes."

I said sure, first cause I was hungry and second cause it gave me time to spit some game at her. She lied, it took a good 15 minutes til the bread was ready... good! We still got interrupted pretty often by other customers though which ruined my flow a bit, but I got through a bunch of A2 and A3 and then a time bridge, which she took.

I definitely felt the rust... several times in the middle of some material I didn't remember the rest of the piece and switched to small talk... and then back to the material as it came to mind. (I always intersperse small talk anyway to give the set a very natural feel, but not usually in the middle of a routine).

I was a little nervous too, mostly because of low momentum plus so many people that know her for a long time overhearing everything. I didn't go into sexual material for that reason. Which I think not sexualizing a set at all is a major problem and can be a cause of flakes.

I did make a point of chatting with her fattie colleague for a couple of minutes, for a little social proof, oblique DHVs and in general to come across as a social guy who can be cool with her friends rather than the lecherous guy who only talks to the hottie and ignores everyone else.

I was 50/50 on whether this set is going to pan out. There was some good eye contact and a few things that could be considered IOIs, such as her asking stuff about me, her telling me I should buy some wine cause it's nice to drink wine in this weather, and before I took off she played some song for me on her work computer.

As I drove off with her number, I was half thinking this might be so on that it'll go down as a same day lay... I'll just tell her to bring that wine over to my place after her shift. But, she was a bit slow with her replies on whatsapp and didn't give me a whole lot to work with.

I diagnosed it's a game dynamics issue and started sexualizing over text with my mentor's tinder plan, since I hadn't been able to sexualize at the gas station. Too many people standing right next to us. The sexualization seemed to help... she responded to it with like heart emoticons and stickers... then today I got a "gooood morning" and she answered my question where she lives... I think it's pretty on now.

I'll drop by there one more time better dressed (I was sick the day I picked her up and dressed sloppy) and then straight ask her out. Worst case I'll pivot her and throw her into the social proof pool for any group meetups.

Whatever happens, I'm glad I got over the intimidation factor and got through the whole hook module of my stack on a really hot girl. Great practice round... I just need a lot more sets. I'll try get a dedicated in-field session in some afternoon this week.

Thursday OR: out with last week's obstacle

Went to the (small) town where I'm staying at the moment and walked around for a lap... not many people out, bad weather, no targets. Sucks. Saw the receptionist from last time again, but she's being a coquette, baiting for attention and teasing. I gotta read Teevster's stuff about that. Chatted up 2 girls and a gay guy just for practice, I'm not interested in the girls. My target from last week is out of town, the obstacle is around though so I met her for food.

I'm not really into her, so I was gonna just go home after dinner, but then she invited herself over to my place... interesting... :unsure: Should I do this girl? Sometimes when you're rusty it helps to lower your standards a bit. Again I decided I'll do it if she like... throws herself at me. She didn't though, I would have had to at least sexualize a bit, compliment her and shift the vibe, but I just wasn't feeling it. So we hung out at my place for a couple of hours then I took her back.

I could say this was good practice socializing with a bunch of strangers including four girls but the truth is, it was a bit of creative avoidance because I opened zero sets today. To be fair, I also didn't even see any sets... but if I hadn't spent so much time with these other girls, maybe I would have eventually found some sets... I need to push myself more. I'm definitely still struggling with AA or I wouldn't be creatively avoiding like that.

Quick side note

Some people have asked me how many sets I play... the sets I wrote about in this journal are the only sets I played since my return. That's all I had the energy for in my current state of health.

I actually did forgot to mention 1 set so I'll add it now... after the newbie drills in my previous post I opened a stunner walking down the street, but I used an indirect opener and the transition didn't hook.

This is somehow a lesson I have to learn over and over: Indirect openers on girls walking down the street are more hit and miss than compliance openers, because the girls by definition are going somewhere and are often in a rush. Need something high impact to stop them in their tracks.
 
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Was out with the cashier last night... field report is here:


Also, I ran into my target from the 2-set I wrote about prior, the one where we lost the target in the crowd. She was talking to another dude. As I approached I realized he was trying to get into her pants. Okay let me crash that!! :D

I sat down and started talking to her, acknowledging him respectfully to not be a social retard, but focused mostly on her. He got all fidgety! Started playing with his phone, put the phone down again, took it out again and then said something really needy that I won't even repeat on a public forum.

Wow he really lost frame fast. Is that where the competition is at in 2023?

I had to be somewhere 20 minutes later but I can see I might be able to get her out for drinks 1:1 next time I run into her... let's see.
 
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Alright, a few thoughts for the journal... first off, full monty with the cashier.


We said goodbye less than 12 hours ago and she already suggested another meet... so now it's me who's got to slow her down a bit. I love that way the power dynamic flips after the lay. Up to the FC it's all touch and go, and one mistake can derail everything... after that pre-lay tension pops, the vibe is so much nicer and chill. At least I've always felt that way.

Update: True Alpha Formula

Next up... I anounced like a year ago that I'm working on a completely new model for running and teaching pickup. I called it "True Alpha Formula", though I'm thinking about renaming it "Magnetic Pickup System", just because the word "alpha" has been so abused and people have all kinds of weird connotations when they hear it. I go by Geoffrey Miller's definition when I say "alpha".

Don't think I've forgotten about that, or that TAF / MPS turned out to be a non starter. I know it works, because I've done it and I've seen it work. Just the girls I used it on weren't up to my usual standards and so I didn't lay them when they started trying to hook up with me.

I want to have a bunch of LRs from TAF / MPS before I really codify it and put it out there for y'all, but it's all mapped out in my head already. And, of course it will be free, so please also don't think I'm setting up for selling y'all some product.

1 fuck buddy = Danger Zone

I'll give another preview of True Alpha Formula real quick. One of the concepts is that your goal should be to have sexual access to at least 4 girls. That seems to be a healthy measure for guys who really have their shit together with women, and there's a few reasons for that, which I'll get into later.

Having only 1 girl is what I call the "danger zone", because there's a strong temptation to spend more time with her than you would if you had 4 girls. And spending a lot of time, one can easily fall into a relationship unintentionally because it's easy to get attached... just biochemically from all the oxytocin.

This is where many PUAs drop out of the game... they get a few lays but then end up accidentally falling into a relationship with one of the girls just because the bonding chemicals kick in. Happened to me quite a bit until 2007, and then it happened again in 2018 (tinder girl).

2 girls is not much better because that's really just 2 women competing over which one can tie you down into an LTR. 3 is better but if one drops off, you're back to the competition between 2. But 4 legs make a stable table.

So, I'm in the danger zone right now. Time to put the pedal to the metal and add more girls to the rotation ASAP. Going from zero lays to the first lay is very hard, but once that hurdle is taken, the danger zone begins, and the time from 1 fuckbuddy to 4 fuckbuddies there's that risk of LTR. Which is fine if you want an LTR, but obviously not great if you want the True Alpha MPUA life style.

Sticking Points: still Health and solo daygame AA

So, thing is, it took quite a while to get the first lay here, but it did not actually take a lot of sets. I gotta read back through my journal how many sets I actually played, but it wasn't that many. A year before I started this thread I played 7 sets in a week and almost layed 2 of them also, but logistics fucked up.

In other words, if I can get into a set solidly then I have a pretty good shot, but I'm not getting into enough sets. Not by a mile. The main reason for that of course is my health, when for months and months I can't go out at all. But the second reason is mental blocks, especially solo daygame AA. This has been a much bigger problem than expected because I had beat it totally.

To me cracking AA comes down to (1) warmups, (2) going with a wing, or (3) momentum and X-Factor. I don't have enough momentum yet for that to cure it, I don't have any wings and for some reason I have this major aversion to doing warmup sets. Several times I've been out thinking, I should just do warmup sets, and then I don't do them. Not sure what's broken there.

Going with a wing is an issue for 2 reasons... first because I've only been in small towns for the past several years, there are no other PUAs around. Going with a non PUA is a problem because they don't usually appreciate when you ditch them go to talk to some hoe. 😅

When I was still really good at this stuff, I actually couldn't get PUAs to go out with me either cause they were like "man it's boring going daygame with you Karea. I get all dressed up, drive all the way into town, then we meet and 10 minutes later you're with some girl for the next couple of hours and I'm there alone. What's the point?"

So, I'm stuck with warmup sets which I HATE doing. I don't know why I have this aversion to doing warmup sets. They're work and they're not hard but I'm stuck on them. Okay next goal: WARM UP FAST. No laps, no walking around. Park the car and immediately start running warmups on the VERY FIRST person I see.

-Karea.
 

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Holy shit I just read my whole journal and there were less than 20 sets in it. When I started over with just 4 months of rust in 2009, it took me 23 sets for my first lay... this time less than 20... just I dragged it out over more than a year... health issues notwithstanding, I gotta get into more sets!! What the fuuuck! 😅 If I beat solo daygame AA and can get some real numbers in again things should take off as most of the rest of my game is like 70-80% dialed in again... good enough for gubmint work!
 

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beat solo daygame AA and can get some real numbers in again things should take off as most of the rest of my game is like 70-80% dialed in again
Interesting - I have a similar sticking point
You’ll let us know how it goes with those warm up sets

Honestly man, with the conversion rate you have (about 1:10/1:20 ) your main gains, like most advanced folks gains, are going to come from quantity.

The obsession when someone becomes an advanced must be to find ways to maximize the quantity of approaches one makes.
One of the concepts is that your goal should be to have sexual access to at least 4 girls
very interesting stuff and I agree.

you can’t walk on one arrow but you can definitely walk on a bunch of ones.

I find to keep a sense of abundance it might not be enough to have fucked a ton of chicks. It sure helps but having a rotation, and making sure the girls in the rotation are more invested in you than you are in them, helps a lot.

Another thing I would add is that while the goal is to have these 4 chicks being as qualitative as possible, you can build the quality up slowly.

Basically replacing girls with better ones soon as you find better ones.

For those who worry about ethics, just have a PURE playboy frame (not a romantic playboy one ) with those you don’t like that much.

But in general, if you’re worrying about the ethics aspect you probably shouldn’t be worrying
 

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Interesting - I have a similar sticking point
Yeah? How's that manifesting for you?
You’ll let us know how it goes with those warm up sets
It's working. I'm annoyed that I need warmup sets again cause yeah I hate doing them, and I didn't need them anymore the last 2 years before I quit the game.

But, at least there's progress now. In my post above about the newbie drills, I did I think 5 or 6 asking people where to buy a specific item, and then 3 real openers on women I wasn't attracted to before I was done with AA.

This time, I only needed the 5 informational openers... then I was ready to do a real opener on a real target. More in FR below.
Honestly man, with the conversion rate you have (about 1:10/1:20 ) your main gains, like most advanced folks gains, are going to come from quantity.
Yup. Which is an issue because it's really about volume. And volume comes down to simple math:

Volume (V) = Days in field (D) * Opens per day (O)

V = D * O 🤓

May days in field have been severely limited by all the health bullshit, and my opens per day have been severely limited by the fact that I've always been in very small towns for the past several years, and that trend is going to continue.

Another issue I have with volume is that I'm picky and always have been. My notch count is relatively low for someone of my skill level (low three figs if we're counting only lays from game), because I only go for girls I'm genuinely attracted to.

PUAs who practice on the girl-next-door types, the slightly chubby girls and the 6s tend to get good a lot faster. They just get more practice in and so they calibrate faster.

Hopefully now that I'm doing a bit better with the AA I'll be able to run some approaches even in everyday life soon, without scheduling a dedicated game session with warmups.
For those who worry about ethics, just have a PURE playboy frame (not a romantic playboy one ) with those you don’t like that much.

But in general, if you’re worrying about the ethics aspect you probably shouldn’t be worrying
I'm always transparent with all girls, and I frame all that stuff before I even get into the meat of my comfort game.
 

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Karea said:
Going from zero lays to the first lay is very hard, but once that hurdle is taken, the danger zone begins, and the time from 1 fuckbuddy to 4 fuckbuddies there's that risk of LTR. Which is fine if you want an LTR
Quick follow up here... scratch that. I think it's a very bad idea to go from the danger zone into an LTR, because you're not in abundance and probably picking her based on looks (why you picked her up), based on emotion (oxytocin overload) and based on attachment (forming pairbond) rather than any rational criteria whatsoever.

I recommend a real man should pick his woman from amongst his harem, not from within the danger zone. Getting a GF from the danger zone is where all my tumultuous relationships have come from.
 

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Friday FR: Felt like I finally got my game back

Went out to daygame again, determined to do those warmups. I know so many girls in this town now that I'm going to have to give them some names to keep this post from being very confusing.

HB_Influencer... target from the 1-set that became a 2-set (she has like 230k followers so hence that nick)
HB_Friend... the obstacle in the set with the influencer. She's now like a pretty cool buddy of mine hence HB_friend
HB_Selfie... the girl this report is about
HB_Blonde... a friend of HB_Selfie
HB_Persian... a friend of HB_Friend's
Player_B... the guy who made the needy comment to HB_Influencer in my previous report. Maybe a bit generous to call him a player but he's definitely trying.

I ran into influencer, friend and player as soon as I went out, so I went have lunch with them. I hadn't eaten yet anyway so I took it as a bit of a warmup. I noticed I'm not interested in influencer anymore as my new FB cashier is hotter. I've always hated downgrades, even if they were just additions to the stable.

Then I split from them and as planned did my 5 proper warmups. 5 informational was enough, didn't need any real openers on non-targets this time to beat AA, so that's progress. Or maybe that's because I had lunch with a few people before so the mouth was already moving.

Feeling ready to do some real openers, I saw a honey taking selfies for instagram. I hung around the area for 2 minutes just to check if she was with the group that was right next to her, but quickly realized she's in fact alone. Then I acted like I'm taking selfies too, and asked her to snap some of me. Milked that a bit to make it last longer by doing different angles, lighting, seated/standing.

Chatted a bit about the pictures she took... is she an influencer? Taking pictures for her friends? Go into some small talk to make it natural, and then observational transition into cold reading and teasing to properly hook the set and build some attraction. Just as I'm done with that piece, a promoter chats us up and offers us drinks. I look at her: "how about it? let's grab a drink." and she takes it, so we're on the i-date.

The i-date went great... I finally felt my smooth game coming back the way it should be. Gaming HB_cashier I felt like I was playing speed chess, it took a lot of concentration. Conscious competence, basically. But this time I felt I finally had my game back and was able to do it all very laid back and cool. What a difference that first lay makes after a long break.

I got all the way up to the end of C1 with her. I actually thought I'm going to get the SDL... one shot one kill for the day. But, she had plans already... forgot to clarify that up front. So that's still some rust right there. I'd say right now my game's at about 70% of what it was. I think I'm now in that phase where I have a little bit player vibe. Pretty confident and smooth again but maybe a little too slick.

Btw, she told me something fascinating. She said guys don't approach her and her friends much anymore when they go out to bars and clubs. Used to have to beat them off with a fly swatter. Now they just look over and stare all night but don't have the balls to approach anymore. Which seems to confirm my theories about how game could be easier now as social media has destroyed the competition.

So shooting for the SDL, I suggested hopping to one more bar (hey I gotta do C2 girl! Would you join me for another drink and some C2?). She said she has to buy some stuff and I suggested to join her, but she turned that down... but, then she asked me if I'll be out later, and to meet then. By that time I already had her number of course, so I just pinged her after a bit for that meet.

After this set there wasn't much time left in my day, so I decided to just practice 2 openers that needed some in-field testing... one I haven't used in 13 years and the other I've never used before. So I tested them on an HB6 each. But, they both came out perfectly the first time I tried them, so no need for further practice. My game is definitely starting to come back, which is nice.

At this point, HB_Friend also asked me to go out tonight, so I was like cool, let's merge the two groups for double the social proof. Not everybody ended up showing, but I basically found my target and her friend the blonde first, and then got the other girls to come to me. As social proof ensues, I find myself once again surrounded by 4 girls. The blonde (my target's friend) hits on me immediately and even asks for my number almost right away.

A half hour later it's only my target and her friend the blonde... I'm thinking fucking 2-set again... if I had played it slightly differently I could have actually made the isolation happen, but I fumbled it and so I just let them go home together. I sent HB_Selfie a text giving her a subtle sexual compliment, which she replied to with a heart emoticon to. Probably a good shot at getting her out 1:1 now.

Saturday, had my new FB come over, then we went out for some food and live music. Sunday was gonna game again... do more approaches and take a shot at three girls I have my eye on... (1) HB_Selfie, (2) the coquette receptionist, and (3) a waitress I like. But I felt like shit and had to leave it... hopefully more tomorrow.
 
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