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I met this woman back in October, on a Saturday, at a club. She was with a group of friends and it was about an hour to closing time. I was mentally dreary due to grinding and making out with another woman who I was not able to pull but who I banged the following monday through a day2. Anyway, with this girl I started it off with:
Me: "Hey, what's up. You guys look pretty cool. How's your night going?"
Her: "Why do we look cool?"
Me: "Because your dance moves are the best right now."
Her: "Ah, ok."
This isn't word for word but it was something like that; it was actually a rough start. I had no idea this girl actually liked me. She was very stiff about everything, with one word responses like "Ok"or "Yep". It was really frustrating, but she wouldn't walk away or anything. I was actually considering walking away at one point, but another player was talking to her friend and was doing a pretty good job so I felt motivated by seeing that. After an hour the bar closed and we were all forced to leave. Outside I tried getting her number, but she said, "Sorry, I can't." then left with her friends in an uber.
Eventually I ran into her again at the beginning of December at a different club. We started off great, chatted for a long time, though nothing very physical happened. Due to her being a little stiff with physical touch, I felt stiff as well! But personally, I don't like being too forceful with physicality; I take physical touch a little too gradually maybe. Anyways, we set up a day 2 and I got her number.
On the Day 2, I picked her up from a place she was studying at, took her to a town center area, walked around with some coffee, then took her directly to my place (still no kissing or anything yet). Here at my place, clearly a sex location, I was hoping similar to my previous two lays that I could start physicality and get the bang since she seemed so casual about coming back to my place. However, this was not the case. I brought her onto my bed, but she was still very stiff when it came to her face facing mine for a kiss. I could tell she didn't want to kiss instinctually by the vibe I was getting so I didn't go for it. Instead, we laid together and kept chatting. Through our little chat, lying on my bed (feeling so close to the bang!), I learned that she is a college freshman, a real feminist (i.e. she reads a lot of feminist material, serious about empowerment and all that), carries pepper spray which she proudly showed me, and had never had sex before. The latter I initially doubted, but later through repeated jokes and playing off as if she wasn't a virgin, it became clear to me that she really was. This is hard to describe I know. This girl is also very hot, although she is asian so some of ya'll might not be into that. I am part asian so I don't mind whatsoever. Through our chat it became increasingly clear to me that time was running out, she would have to get dropped off at her home, and I would not be getting the lay. This was a bummer, but I accepted it and kept my distance in order to not spoil anything.
Tonight was my Day 7 with this girl; in other words, the sixth date. Each date I came closer and closer to her opening up physically. I didn't make out with her until our fifth date(Day6)!!! In the past I would have quit by now, but I've decided it is best for me to face whatever experiences come my way and to keep going while there is still hope, so me continuing on these dates is the expression of that maxim. At the end of our previous date I learned something very critical - I asked her "are you a shy person?" and she said yes; this is a very simple question (which she had initially said "no" to when I asked her it before) but it unveiled a lot about her, and coupling this with the fact that I knew she was submissive and wanted to be dominated, I realized as I dropped her off at the end of the Day 6 that I really needed to take charge physically, something I'm not entirely willing to do unless the girl gives me clear signals because I don't want to appear "rapey" to be honest.
On this Day 7 (tonight) I tried fulfilling my goal of raising the "take charge" bar and pushing things as far as I could. We watched a movie together at my place, and at the end of the movie I escalated the physicality, gave her a hickey (which she moaned very loudly to), made out, sucked her tits, and rubbed her pussy through her jeans. However, despite her moaning she wasn't willing to take her pants off!!! It appeared I had went to far, but her moaning made it seem so clear to me that she wanted to get fucked! I was very aggravated at all of these mixed signals flying at me, especially since they were occurring at such a critical do-or-die part of the seduction. She never said "I don't want to have sex" or anything like that. But she did say that she had to be home at 12:00AM, and that it was nearing that time to leave. fuck! Apparently she was very concerned about what her parents would think, since after she started seeing me they had become very strict with her, expecting her to be home pronto. I like to think this was what was on the back of her mind, but I don't know completely.
So after all that crazy heat, we got up and I drove her home, leaving her movies at my place. During the drive we made plans for another day this week and she told me how strict her parents were.
When I got home I had planned to do some approaches at a club, since its a friday night and all; but since the weather was shit, I decided to take it easy, play the guitar and think about what i'll do with this girl. Tomorrow night I'll sarge instead.
When I hang out with her again I will definitely take her straight to my place, and I know she knows this and is cool with it. From there, should I go straight for the kill? I know she knows I'll try to fuck her. I'm thinking I'll play it cool, then escalate as far as I can like tonight until I can rip those pants off and bang that puss to the moon, though this girls feminist card and pepper spray identity does worry me a bit. Its clear she wants to be dominated, yet she parades around with qualities that lead men to not want to risk dominating her. Jesus.
The only thing that could doom it all is if she texts something like "I'm sorry but we can't see each other anymore" since, after all, I sucked her tits and went pretty far with her so my intentions aren't hidden whatsoever, and I got her ass home way too late so her parents probably hate me. However, I did build a lot of "Narrative" with her in ToddV terms since we have a lot in common (I honestly wouldn't mind this girl becoming a gf since she doesn't party a lot, is smart, is very level headed, and is hot; I think her feminism is a shallow belief and isn't that obstructive). She seemed unphased and normal about seeing each other again this week, no different than the last date set ups; so maybe this near-miss had no negative affect on her. But you never know.
PS: She regretted not giving her number when I asked for it the first time, her friends were like "why didn't you give it?" but there was a deeply personal reason why she wouldn't, so i can't blame her.
PSS: When we made-out, she was moaning a lot. It was clear she was getting horny from it, which leads me to think she was very protective of making out and kissing (even during tonights date!) out of fear of where her desires may lead her.
- Chrance.
Me: "Hey, what's up. You guys look pretty cool. How's your night going?"
Her: "Why do we look cool?"
Me: "Because your dance moves are the best right now."
Her: "Ah, ok."
This isn't word for word but it was something like that; it was actually a rough start. I had no idea this girl actually liked me. She was very stiff about everything, with one word responses like "Ok"or "Yep". It was really frustrating, but she wouldn't walk away or anything. I was actually considering walking away at one point, but another player was talking to her friend and was doing a pretty good job so I felt motivated by seeing that. After an hour the bar closed and we were all forced to leave. Outside I tried getting her number, but she said, "Sorry, I can't." then left with her friends in an uber.
Eventually I ran into her again at the beginning of December at a different club. We started off great, chatted for a long time, though nothing very physical happened. Due to her being a little stiff with physical touch, I felt stiff as well! But personally, I don't like being too forceful with physicality; I take physical touch a little too gradually maybe. Anyways, we set up a day 2 and I got her number.
On the Day 2, I picked her up from a place she was studying at, took her to a town center area, walked around with some coffee, then took her directly to my place (still no kissing or anything yet). Here at my place, clearly a sex location, I was hoping similar to my previous two lays that I could start physicality and get the bang since she seemed so casual about coming back to my place. However, this was not the case. I brought her onto my bed, but she was still very stiff when it came to her face facing mine for a kiss. I could tell she didn't want to kiss instinctually by the vibe I was getting so I didn't go for it. Instead, we laid together and kept chatting. Through our little chat, lying on my bed (feeling so close to the bang!), I learned that she is a college freshman, a real feminist (i.e. she reads a lot of feminist material, serious about empowerment and all that), carries pepper spray which she proudly showed me, and had never had sex before. The latter I initially doubted, but later through repeated jokes and playing off as if she wasn't a virgin, it became clear to me that she really was. This is hard to describe I know. This girl is also very hot, although she is asian so some of ya'll might not be into that. I am part asian so I don't mind whatsoever. Through our chat it became increasingly clear to me that time was running out, she would have to get dropped off at her home, and I would not be getting the lay. This was a bummer, but I accepted it and kept my distance in order to not spoil anything.
Tonight was my Day 7 with this girl; in other words, the sixth date. Each date I came closer and closer to her opening up physically. I didn't make out with her until our fifth date(Day6)!!! In the past I would have quit by now, but I've decided it is best for me to face whatever experiences come my way and to keep going while there is still hope, so me continuing on these dates is the expression of that maxim. At the end of our previous date I learned something very critical - I asked her "are you a shy person?" and she said yes; this is a very simple question (which she had initially said "no" to when I asked her it before) but it unveiled a lot about her, and coupling this with the fact that I knew she was submissive and wanted to be dominated, I realized as I dropped her off at the end of the Day 6 that I really needed to take charge physically, something I'm not entirely willing to do unless the girl gives me clear signals because I don't want to appear "rapey" to be honest.
On this Day 7 (tonight) I tried fulfilling my goal of raising the "take charge" bar and pushing things as far as I could. We watched a movie together at my place, and at the end of the movie I escalated the physicality, gave her a hickey (which she moaned very loudly to), made out, sucked her tits, and rubbed her pussy through her jeans. However, despite her moaning she wasn't willing to take her pants off!!! It appeared I had went to far, but her moaning made it seem so clear to me that she wanted to get fucked! I was very aggravated at all of these mixed signals flying at me, especially since they were occurring at such a critical do-or-die part of the seduction. She never said "I don't want to have sex" or anything like that. But she did say that she had to be home at 12:00AM, and that it was nearing that time to leave. fuck! Apparently she was very concerned about what her parents would think, since after she started seeing me they had become very strict with her, expecting her to be home pronto. I like to think this was what was on the back of her mind, but I don't know completely.
So after all that crazy heat, we got up and I drove her home, leaving her movies at my place. During the drive we made plans for another day this week and she told me how strict her parents were.
When I got home I had planned to do some approaches at a club, since its a friday night and all; but since the weather was shit, I decided to take it easy, play the guitar and think about what i'll do with this girl. Tomorrow night I'll sarge instead.
When I hang out with her again I will definitely take her straight to my place, and I know she knows this and is cool with it. From there, should I go straight for the kill? I know she knows I'll try to fuck her. I'm thinking I'll play it cool, then escalate as far as I can like tonight until I can rip those pants off and bang that puss to the moon, though this girls feminist card and pepper spray identity does worry me a bit. Its clear she wants to be dominated, yet she parades around with qualities that lead men to not want to risk dominating her. Jesus.
The only thing that could doom it all is if she texts something like "I'm sorry but we can't see each other anymore" since, after all, I sucked her tits and went pretty far with her so my intentions aren't hidden whatsoever, and I got her ass home way too late so her parents probably hate me. However, I did build a lot of "Narrative" with her in ToddV terms since we have a lot in common (I honestly wouldn't mind this girl becoming a gf since she doesn't party a lot, is smart, is very level headed, and is hot; I think her feminism is a shallow belief and isn't that obstructive). She seemed unphased and normal about seeing each other again this week, no different than the last date set ups; so maybe this near-miss had no negative affect on her. But you never know.
PS: She regretted not giving her number when I asked for it the first time, her friends were like "why didn't you give it?" but there was a deeply personal reason why she wouldn't, so i can't blame her.
PSS: When we made-out, she was moaning a lot. It was clear she was getting horny from it, which leads me to think she was very protective of making out and kissing (even during tonights date!) out of fear of where her desires may lead her.
- Chrance.
