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What's an 'above average' net worth for older men by the age group? (30s, 40s, 50s)

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Noted.

1. Get wealthy and become top 20%
2. Redpill, I'll take a look at it to see what it's about.
3.- stop your attempts at humor and trolling.... you are not funny, and your trolling beyond weak...

Anyways in case some real lurkes are reading the post, i remember todd d explain in this video, this video and this..... Something i found extremely accurate in my own experience (i had a lot of money during couple of points in my life) and how it relates to game...

P.s. There is not a memo, or app. that women get that says "dude ______ fill in the blank, just became 20% time to spread the legs....
 
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3.- stop your attempts at humor and trolling.... you are not funny, and your trolling beyond weak...

Anyways in case some real lurkes are reading the post, i remember todd d explain in this video, this video and this..... Something i found extremely accurate in my own experience (i had a lot of money during couple of points in my life) and how it relates to game...

P.s. There is not a memo, or app. that women get that says "dude ______ fill in the blank, just became 20% time to spread the legs....
Noted.

1. Get wealthy and become top 20%
2. Lift
3. Game.
 

MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla

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I’ll bridge together two different threads.


Seems to be a lot about wealth here. I understand where it’s coming from, an important factoid to remember is that with people forty and under in this current year the odds of women being richer then the man are in the women’s favour. I personally have good reason, “[with all the incentives and free money floating] to be richer then there make contemporary.

Now I’ll explain the difference and a I’ll let you boys decide where I am wrong or where I am right.

There is a Sci Fi novel that follows soldiers called the Harkoni War Hawks, these men are born into debt. A common way to pay off this debt is to go into the army.

There is a novel that follows the first born sons who in debt are forced to become soldiers. They go into foreign theatres that are dangerous and go fight mans war.

We are born in a stage which I believe we are between freedom of choice and absolutionist debt with no escape.

There are many debates in PUA, so many…. I want you guys to take a recent world example though and look at the India Caste system. That was in recent time a system where people were in a forced setting for falling in love and getting married off,

That system has largely died off like the dinosaurs did. It died so fast and so rapidly that it was not but a blip on the radar.

“Must that is one culture one example” NO.

British Royals with Megan Merkle, Japanese Royals married into a commoner. We have to see a larger picture, all the suddenly classism has died. Just off of the ability of sheer survival and access to activities have we grown as a people.

Where does this start to involve seducers? I didn’t lie about the caste system where it’s been reduced to rubble. All the suddenly however we being PUA’s have been given the gift of discernment of value, the discernment of Cupid’s arrow, the discernment. To be able to draw a line in the sand is such an amazing ability that it can in modern times be considered a seductive skill.

This all leads to my final point.

- Cash gives you access *[in certain situations] to play the game on YOUR terms. You have more freedom to play the game as you like.

- Wealth is another word for access, you can say for example, “X does this, Y does that, Z does this.” Or in common tongue wealth can be distributed.
 
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MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla

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Now I can make the easy argument against the boomer generation and quite frankly anybody older. This is from a previous post.

Neither, I should do a larger post and explain if you guys would be interested write me so and I’ll do a good analysis.

My point is this; Women have gigantic problems that they do not know how to deal with.

They do not understand for example if they are inheritors of property how to expell people off that property or the process that pertains. They do not understand crypto, the stock market. You ask them to fix their car and they have zero fucking clue how to do it, a billion million things like these I can’t understate it enough.

These skinny big titty bitches still have parents that are going to need to at some point to retire, responsibilities and troubles hit very hard. They’ll wreck their cars, get sued, laid off of their jobs, student debts etc…etc….

And when they realize this they go into a gigantic “Oh fuck” motion. I’d have to do the background check but most women come from single family homes, which means the majority of women are single children.

This forces two things to occur,

one of them is a further masculinization of their habits. Which hurts them a lot

OR

They find a man to date

And in risk management which is a philosophical way of living. I rate the risk to reward ratio and at the moment the risk of debits and credits is swayed far more in the women’s direction then it is of mans.

I’m very very comfortable in just saying no. Doesn’t mean I am spitting out no’s, but in a high risk environment it’s a necessity.

Don’t take risk. Hunker down with a gf

Let me make a fast point because this relates to Chases article.

The boomer generation has nobody to care for them, they are not able to outfuck me, they are barely able to understand game beyond you have to buy flowers and be in constant contact with the gf.

I have a feeling deep down that older people don’t understand the dynamics of tribalism and how that can play into our everyday activities.

an even further seqway is I believe I’ll live until 110 easily.

I don’t need to be rich, I dont need to be wealthy. I simply need to be a man.
 

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Does it matter that the onlyfans girls make up to 270 X more than a male doctor in his prime?
 

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Does it matter that the onlyfans girls make up to 270 X more than a male doctor in his prime?
Well it won’t last. OF are now banning “porn” so the whole things going to go to shit quite soon.

it’ll be interesting and quite good fun to see the THOT meltdown.
 

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Nah, they came out saying that they're not going to ban porn anymore. I don't know what their revenue model looks like but they probably had a huge number of people coming just for that.
 

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Well it won’t last. OF are now banning “porn” so the whole things going to go to shit quite soon.

it’ll be interesting and quite good fun to see the THOT meltdown.
I beg to differ. I forsee every girl having an only fans (or related 'sex work' platform), making it rain. It is social media.
 

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I beg to differ. I forsee every girl having an only fans (or related 'sex work' platform), making it rain. It is social media.


Women don't see 1000 matches, 1000 likes, or a bunch of followers of instagram/only fans, strip club clientele as prospects/candidates, they get overwhelmed, frustrated and don't really see them as candidates, at times they feel lonely, has 0 to nothing to do when we engage those women, they totally see us in a different light... is a flawed view of how women see men they want and attracted to, this play no role on the contrary it actually helps cause we can care less...
 

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I can confirm what Skills says.
I have (a lot of) money, but I don't get laid.
Confidence regarding business skills/money/status doesn't translate to confidence with women.

The inner game needed for attracting women is very specific and not connected to the "inner game" you develop while succeeding elsewhere.

Success only matters for creating attraction when women see you in the environment where you have status.
This is facts. I will add to this that working on your business/money/status is a great investment though.

I have found it very helpful in giving me a certain peace. I still have work to do with women, but there is a part of me more at peace since I also have some success in another area.

I've found developing both has made me a stronger person. With the failures and successes on both sides making me harder. Working on both also has helped me shake off insecurities since I know I'm working on it.

Overall my frame is a bit stronger because of working on both.

It's not everything, but neither are women. Both add and subtract to your inner game. Business and money is definitely a longer route though and plenty of people not particularly well off or just scraping by get laid. Your seduction ability, lifestyle, social skills are definitely more of a deciding factor unless you become THE ABSOLUTE MAN in your field. Like the Drake of whatever your niche is. Then even if you are not particularly great with women you'll get laid just because clout.
 

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Women don't see 1000 matches, 1000 likes, or a bunch of followers of instagram/only fans, strip club clientele as prospects/candidates, they get overwhelmed, frustrated and don't really see them as candidates, at times they feel lonely, has 0 to nothing to do when we engage those women, they totally see us in a different light... is a flawed view of how women see men they want and attracted to, this play no role on the contrary it actually helps cause we can care less...
Correct - they just see them as chumps.

They do not regard them as candidates for intimacy.
 

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Nah, they came out saying that they're not going to ban porn anymore. I don't know what their revenue model looks like but they probably had a huge number of people coming just for that.
We’ll it doesn’t surprise me - the whole thing was about porn. If they’d banned it the revenue would have collapsed.
Funny U turn though. Now there’s no avoiding what it’s about.
 

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Then even if you are not particularly great with women you'll get laid just because clout.
this is a dangerous mental point of origin because it frames you as a beta Bux provider.

All women look for these, but it’s negotiated desire.

this route will ruin you.

Get great with women, and them without using money. Of course you need money but don’t consider money as a route to intimacy with women.

they are two totally different things.
 

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this is a dangerous mental point of origin because it frames you as a beta Bux provider.
Not all providers are of the same cloth. Think of Hugh Hefner, Arabian billionaires, the sexual deviants of Hollywood.

Alpha Fucks Beta Buxs is a simplistic model that holds some truth and generally helps free men who are low quality providers with very little lover qualities into developing higher lover qualities.
this route will ruin you.
This I agree with somewhat. There are plenty of people toiling away in their careers for money and women who lack seductive abilities and don't have the status to account for that. There's also providers cleaning up on a level a lover couldn't even touch due to their access, status, and money, and financial freedom.
Get great with women, and them without using money. Of course you need money but don’t consider money as a route to intimacy with women.

they are two totally different things.
Overall it is better in my opinion to improve with women rather than focus solely on the money route. But to deny that money is a route to intimacy with women is inaccurate.

You can argue about the quality of the women that men get using the money route though. Plenty of high status men with money are unhappy with their women. They also have WAY MORE options for quick sex though. It can't be understated that the relationship front takes a hit for a vast majority of them due to lacking what you are describing. Also they might not even have time for all the women on their doorstep due to their business venture causing them to hastily choose a low quality woman who sleeps with a lover on the side. This does exist.

Do not discount the provider in the Sexual Market Place. Women don't. Especially if they are an elite provider. High Quality Lovers and Providers will both have women knocking on their doors. This does exist.

Being the best version of both really doesn't cause you any harm. Presenting one in the wrong scenario could though.

Like If she wants a relationship and you do what most guys do by being a fake provider until they get laid ( if they even do) and then ditching.

She wants to get laid and you keep rattling off about your value and assets quickly making her ditch you or attracting women who only screen for that which can also give you a long courtship.

The examples are infinite in how you could use these frames improperly for a set and not get your desired outcome.
All women look for these, but it’s negotiated desire.
Not really sure what you mean with this either. This seems more dangerous then my statement.

Some girls just want to get fucked. Most women are not able to get with the top provider. They meet a provider at their belt level.

If this really was a ALL WOMEN WANT then there wouldn't be a space for us motherfuckers in this marketplace ;)

This is more of a dance than a business negotiation.

Provider seduction is as interesting and worthwhile as lover seduction. If High Quality.

Lighten up friend. Being a provider isn't the end of the world. Women don't cut you off from pussy indefinitely because you are a provider nor will you get open access to pussy for being a lover. It's about quality, your probability/skill, and your aim with a particular set.

Work on both. You'll feel better and meet cool women. Or don't it's your life really man! Do what you want :D
 

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Not all providers are of the same cloth. Think of Hugh Hefner, Arabian billionaires, the sexual deviants of Hollywood.

Alpha Fucks Beta Buxs is a simplistic model that holds some truth and generally helps free men who are low quality providers with very little lover qualities into developing higher lover qualities.

This I agree with somewhat. There are plenty of people toiling away in their careers for money and women who lack seductive abilities and don't have the status to account for that. There's also providers cleaning up on a level a lover couldn't even touch due to their access, status, and money, and financial freedom.

Overall it is better in my opinion to improve with women rather than focus solely on the money route. But to deny that money is a route to intimacy with women is inaccurate.

You can argue about the quality of the women that men get using the money route though. Plenty of high status men with money are unhappy with their women. They also have WAY MORE options for quick sex though. It can't be understated that the relationship front takes a hit for a vast majority of them due to lacking what you are describing. Also they might not even have time for all the women on their doorstep due to their business venture causing them to hastily choose a low quality woman who sleeps with a lover on the side. This does exist.

Do not discount the provider in the Sexual Market Place. Women don't. Especially if they are an elite provider. High Quality Lovers and Providers will both have women knocking on their doors. This does exist.

Being the best version of both really doesn't cause you any harm. Presenting one in the wrong scenario could though.

Like If she wants a relationship and you do what most guys do by being a fake provider until they get laid ( if they even do) and then ditching.

She wants to get laid and you keep rattling off about your value and assets quickly making her ditch you or attracting women who only screen for that which can also give you a long courtship.

The examples are infinite in how you could use these frames improperly for a set and not get your desired outcome.

Not really sure what you mean with this either. This seems more dangerous then my statement.

Some girls just want to get fucked. Most women are not able to get with the top provider. They meet a provider at their belt level.

If this really was a ALL WOMEN WANT then there wouldn't be a space for us motherfuckers in this marketplace ;)

This is more of a dance than a business negotiation.

Provider seduction is as interesting and worthwhile as lover seduction. If High Quality.

Lighten up friend. Being a provider isn't the end of the world. Women don't cut you off from pussy indefinitely because you are a provider nor will you get open access to pussy for being a lover. It's about quality, your probability/skill, and your aim with a particular set.

Work on both. You'll feel better and meet cool women. Or don't it's your life really man! Do what you want :D
Well if you’ve made your mind up then you’ve made your mind up.
But I stand by what I said.
It won’t become blindingly obvious to you until you’re mid 30’s to 40’s and your wife leaves you taking half your shit and your kids.
Then you’ll realise that her desire should have been achieved another way.
But it’s up to you.
 

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I've read this article and found it fascinating. It puts it into perspective what makes an older guy a creep versus non-creep. Basically, as an older guy you have to be above average or extra-ordinary in finances, lifestyle, body, conversational skills, etc.

That got me to thinking about net worth by age groups.

What is considered an above average networth for men by age group in America overall?

20-29
30-39
40-49

Others have shared their opinion. And I'll share mine from a completely different perspective. What you need to do is figure out what are your goals in life. Be very specific. So you can know exactly how much money you need to make every year. Don't worry about other guys. There are men making $9,000 USD per year in America which is poverty level. There are average earners making $30k to $50k per year. And there are others who are 6 figure, 7 figure, 8 figure and above earners.

You cannot sit and compare yourself to other men. But I understand you want to know how you relate to other men in the financial area. But forget that. Do this.

1. Take out a piece of paper and write down everything you want to achieve in life.

2. Find out the current price for those items and also the rate of inflation for them.

This list needs to be in depth. It needs to include savings for retirement (aim to have money set aside till you are 100+. It's better to die with money still in the bank, than too little. You could write a will to have that money given to your next generation, charity, etc.
 

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I’m not saying you shouldn’t earn money, you definitely should and you should earn as much as you can.
But you should do it for you.
Regarding financial success as a gateway to women or as a mechanism to make getting women “easier” is the problem.
It’s the mindset not the money.
 
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