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Teevster

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except it’s not different. to use my girlfriend as an example. lse (daddy issues), uses antidepressants, low body count.

Is this a joke?

Just a few weeks ago, you went on a whole charade arguing that a “low body count” was a good indicator for relationship potential and a sign of mental stability—spending plenty of time and posts pushing back against my point that a low body count can actually correlate with mental instability.

And now it turns out your GF is an LSE girl on antidepressants... and of course - by coindicence... LOW BODY COUNT.

What the hell!

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Also, the overall frame of yours you present in your description of your relationship with you girlfriend is not coherent with the one you described in this post:

i do agree with this. i’m very emotionally abusive with girls. pick fights with them over text. threat to break up with them. etc the whole nine yards. which comes naturally to me after years of studying YaReally’s advice on relationship game. why i have no issue with the girl being LSE or HSE. why i laugh at giving this girl commitment would make her dump him.

Which is exactly what I suggested when it came to deal with "LSE/depressed" girls.

OP did not seem to opt for such strategy.

-Teevster
 
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You went on a charade a few weeks ago on how "low body count" was a good indicator for relationship candidates, and a sign of mental stability...
i did no such thing. i know its 7am over there and your tired so ill pull up the exact quote
Because it is generally a good indicator of someone with strong impulse control
which my girlfriend does have.
Also, the overall frame of yours you present in your description of your girlfriend is not coherent with the one you described in this post:
it is. i mentioned in the post that i just wrote that i am emotionally abusive to her (fights over text). just like i am with all the girls i’ve been in a relationship with.
 

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which my girlfriend does have.

Because she is on antidepressants?

On a different note: uou did argue against my main point that "low body count was a sign of mental instability". Just go look at that thread again.

Anyway, welcome to my ignore list. Thank you for having wasted so much of my time.

-Teevster
 

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Because she is on antidepressants?

On a different note: uou did argue against my main point that "low body count was a sign of mental instability". Just go look at that thread again.

Anyway, welcome to my ignore list. Thank you for having wasted so much of my time.

-Teevster
Just want to make the point for forum in USA a lot of gen z are heavily medicated on anxiety and anti depressants and stuff like that.... Is at crazy levels, i don't know if in Europe is the same....
 

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Because she is on antidepressants?
no. antidepressants won’t prevent a slut from being a slut.
On a different note: uou did argue against my main point that "low body count was a sign of mental instability". Just go look at that thread again.
correct. having a low body count isn’t automatically a sign that the girl is mentally unstable. this girl is on antidepressants with daddy issues with a body count of 3. another girl (age 20) i dated before her had a body count of 2 with high self esteem and wasn’t on antidepressants.
 

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Just want to make the point for forum in USA a lot of gen z are heavily medicated on anxiety and anti depressants and stuff like that.... Is at crazy levels, i don't know if in Europe is the same....

Is the next back-n-forth going to be about how "being on anti-depressants" is not HEAVILY correlated with mental instability (hint: correlated with DEPRESSION and anxietty) or what?

Spoiler alert: I won't participate in that debate.

-Teevster
 
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no. antidepressants won’t prevent a slut from being a slut.

See... it was all a moral charade, with no roots in a factual debate.


correct. having a low body count isn’t automatically a sign that the girl is mentally unstable. this girl is on antidepressants with daddy issues with a body count of 3. another girl (age 20) i dated before her had a body count of 2 with high self esteem and wasn’t on antidepressants.

Thank you for finally admitting that I was right. Took its time.

Well, in just a day we confirmed 3 cases of low body count correlated with mental issues:
- The girl in this thread.
- A marrocan girl mentioned in this thread.
- Your GF.

More to come! Mark my words.

-Teevster
 
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Velasco

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Well, in just a day we confirmed 3 cases of low body count correlated with mental issues:
- The girl in this OP.
- A marrocan girl OP mentioned in this thread.
- Your GF.
if you look for it. you will find it. also known as confirmation bias. notice how you ignored the other girl i mentioned lol
 

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if you look for it. you will find it. also known as confirmation bias. notice how you ignored the other girl i mentioned lol

A correlation of 1 is non-existent wen it comes to social phenomena. When we have 3 cases that correlates and one does not, it does not really negate the overall correlation.

The exception does not make a rule. Just like you can find high lay count girls who are stable, and with "good" impulse control.

Don't be a BigPapa.

There is no clear sign confirmation bias here. I have elaborated in depth my case in that thread.

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A correlation of 1 is non-existent when it comes to social phenomena. When we have 3 cases that correlates and one does not, it does not really negate the overall correlation
1). small sample size bias
2). the two girls i mentioned were 18 and 20 years old respectively. having a body count under 5 at that age isn’t insane.
Just like you can find high lay count girls who are stable, and with "good" impulse control
how can a high body count girl have good impulse control when shes accumulated a ton of bodies? the only way one can accumulate a ton of bodies in their lifetime is precisely by having no impulse control.
 

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1). small sample size bias
2). the two girls i mentioned were 18 and 20 years old respectively. having a body count under 5 at that age isn’t insane.

how can a high body count girl have good impulse control when shes accumulated a ton of bodies? the only way one can accumulate a ton of bodies in their lifetime is precisely by having no impulse control.
I see the issue most guys won't target 18 to 20 for ltr and at that age maybe in that context a bit o higher odds... But again even then history of cheating for me...

Anyways we are all going in circles
..

You with the lay count

And teevester with the mental issues stuff..

Both of you using weird qualifiers that ignore mistakes on the actual dude picking mains...
 

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Yeah, I think the antidepressants thing is a moot point, considering everyone is on them nowadays. Especially Western chicks.

This girl I fucked a couple of times earlier this year (with a green card, her mother has an American passport), has been taking SSRI inhibitors since she was 16 or something. Gotta say it makes them emotionally distant and withdrawn, and they have trouble orgasming. It's a turn-off tbh.

Because of this whole Western feminist imperative, there is a tremendous amount of pressure on young girls because they somehow have to act like boys, be like boys, but still be girls. IOW, they have to have lots of degrees, bigshot careers, even start businesses, but at the same time find a partner, give birth, and raise their offspring.

The result is that, since women are naturally more anxious and depressive than men, the pressure becomes overwhelming. So to stop being anxious or panicked, they take these drugs that dull out their emotions so they can continue on this destructive dual strategy.
 

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Drugs: there's SSRIs, SNRIs, MAOIs, tricyclics, and they're not the same. You can't even try to generalize without knowing exactly what she's on. Agreed most of them are on something*.

Body Count: I prefer a Low N count with a high X amount of experience with said previous partners. IMHO, the lower the body count the more willing they are to invest in you, be guided by you, listen, assuming you are good at the sex. And yes, women lie about this stuff, so it's not a huge deal for me just a preference.

But I'm still going to sleep with that hot, short-skirt, stiletto'd office chick who's had 50 partners already.



* in fact, if you're up for something more adventurous, you can offer to help work thru whatever trauma/anxiety they're suffering through role-play and sex. Sometimes their biggest anxiety is simply feeling they can't ask for what they want, sexually - could be bondage, slutty lingerie, 3way, anal, special toys, you name it. Not for everyone! :)
 
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Yeah, I think the antidepressants thing is a moot point, considering everyone is on them nowadays. Especially Western chicks.

This girl I fucked a couple of times earlier this year (with a green card, her mother has an American passport), has been taking SSRI inhibitors since she was 16 or something. Gotta say it makes them emotionally distant and withdrawn, and they have trouble orgasming. It's a turn-off tbh.

Because of this whole Western feminist imperative, there is a tremendous amount of pressure on young girls because they somehow have to act like boys, be like boys, but still be girls. IOW, they have to have lots of degrees, bigshot careers, even start businesses, but at the same time find a partner, give birth, and raise their offspring.

The result is that, since women are naturally more anxious and depressive than men, the pressure becomes overwhelming. So to stop being anxious or panicked, they take these drugs that dull out their emotions so they can continue on this destructive dual strategy.
Yes I have a friend that has a clothing design school
... She wants to quit cause all the kids are anxious and on medication and treating her like she is a therapist vs teacher... Is really bad in USA... Mrs skills in the medical sector and she was disgusted by the amount of pills they are giving patients for no reason... In usa is getting really bad..
 

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I think that body count has some predictive value, but it's not reliable and ultimatively what really matters is the individual case.

Also, there's the matter of honesty and lying. A lot of girls, in my opinion the majority, lie about their body count, only telling about their longterm partners, omitting all one night stands and short relationships. Not to mention omitting things like threesomes. 😂 And very often the supposed "low body count" girl is a liar.

I know a case of a girl who is a friend of my girlfriend - so I know her story from her female friend circle's point of view. She enjoyed going to clubs and having one night stands with new guys. She enjoyed the sex, the attention and testing how good a guy would fuck her. She would sometimes fuck 1 new guy every weekend, sometimes 2 guys a week. Which over the course of months and years would lead to enourmous body count of hundreds. In her friend circle, she had the reputation of being a nymphomaniac. But otherwise she didn't cause any trouble, was a nice person and was liked by people. (Although my GF says she has always felt that girl was sly and unthrustrorthy). She's attractive - 7/10 face and even better body, and is perceived as nice and feminine, but I agree with my GF - there's something untrustworhy about her if one has a good eye.

One day the "nympho" girl met a guy - handsome, rich and naive when it comes to women. She told him she's a conservative girl with only a few boyfriends. And that she doesn't like to drink or party. 🤣 She basically did a "perfect wife" act and he bought it. Now they're married with kids. He - as far as I know - thinks he got a perfect woman, a paragon of feminine virtues, an exceptional jewel, etc etc. 🙄

I don't know if she's cheating on him or not - because the friend circles of her and my GF drifted apart. But I know the guy believes he married a conservative, high morals, low body count woman. And he's very pleased with her as a wife.

The point I want to make here is that if somebody would not know the "inside story" of that situation, he would probably think she's a perfect example of a "high quality", conservative girl with low body count. And that she's a great wife BECAUSE of that - while in reality, she's a good wife DESPITE being a serial slut in the past.

As for the whole thread, I agree with @Chase:


ARE HIGH BODY COUNT OR LOW BODY COUNT WOMEN CRAZIER?

Here are some important points IMO:

  • Some women with high body counts are disordered.
  • Not all women with high body counts are disordered.
  • Some women with low body counts are disordered.
  • Not all women with high body counts are disordered.


Yes - both high body count and low body count women can be healthy or disturbed.

I do think high body count women are disturbed more often, but it's nothing definite.


Example of a high body count woman who is disordered:

A girl with borderline personality disorder who jumps from man to man to man. She can’t hold down a job and her friendships and relationships are like revolving doors laced with TNT.

Or the less crazy, but way more common example: a "standard" disturbed girl from a dysfunctional family. Often having an alcoholic or otherwise toxic father, she's emotionally unstable and is subconsciously recreating the pathological dynamics of her childhood home. Often likes to party and drink a lot, sometimes is alcoholic.


Example of a high body count woman who is not disordered:

A high-testosterone girl who is naturally high in sensation seeking. She holds down a stable job and has healthy friendships; however, she simply just LOVES cock!

I LOVE this kind of women. I value them over low body count "good girls".


Example of a low body count woman who is disordered:

Anal-retentive paranoid girl who finds sex icky and fears the feeling of losing control she has around sex. To her, sex is something to be avoided as much as possible, and rigidly controlled when not able to be avoided.

Oh yes. Often from a highly controlling, emotionally abusive or cold family. Sometimes with very religious parents. She's rigid and simply NOT FUN. She's programmed to make life strict, rigid, dull, even difficult, not to have fun and live with pleasure.


From what I can see here the debate has somewhat devolved into this:

LOW COUNT GUYS: "If she's high count, she's too risky, thus automatically ruled out."

HIGH COUNT GUYS: "It's silly to weigh count at all, because count is not the only factor."

I've noticed that a lot in life.

Low count guys are afraid of high body count women. And I think they're actually right about this. A "bad girl" will sooner or later notice, feel the low count guy's inexperience and will most likely not respect him.

High count guys can connect with "bad girls" way better and they can be respected by them.

So in a way, both groups are correct - from their individual, practical point of view.

Low count guys are correct to avoid high count women they probably can't handle them (especially long-term).

High count guys are correct to not be overly afraid of high count women, because in a lot of cases, they can handle them. (And because they can often obtain a higher level of satisfaction from them than they can get from low count women.)
 
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