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4 approaches 30 days (Chase 30 day challenge)

terminator92

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Day 11

Went out and did 4 approaches today, I was planning to do the same drill as yesterday. I wanted to open at least 10 sets and run the same structure just to get the feel of it before adding any new material. But I failed to hook any sets today, mostly due to external interruptions I feel.

1st Approach- I saw a girl standing outside a train station and went in with my usual casual indirect opener, confirming if this was the main entrance to the station, but she spoke no English, like absolutely zero so I had to eject.

2nd Approach- Saw a girl sitting on a bench and went in and sat next to her while being absorbed in my phone and then after a minute I opened with the same indirect opener confirming if this was the main entrance and then I switched to a cold read about where she was from. I then transitioned and asked if she liked the city and then launched into my gambit about how the city is beautiful and how we forget about it once we start living here and get immersed in our day to day life. After she responds to this I was planning to nudge the convo to the topic of travelling. But this girl was distracted and though she was replying, she was constantly checking her phone and not hooked to the conversation. And before I could transition she received a message and said she had to get going and left.

3rd Approach- She was a cute looking girl outside the train station and I opened with my usual indirect opener I have come up with for the area around the train station. She was smiling instantly and leaned in as soon as I opened. I then transitioned to the cold read and then to talking about the city. She was all ears but at this point her mom came in and joined us and she explained that her mom did not speak English. I still smiled and greeted her mom who smiled back and greeted me. But then she had to leave with her mom. Damn! That looked like a promising set. But this was out of my control.

4th Approach- Opened a girl at the bus stop and was about to perform a cold read when her bus arrived. Bad luck! She had to leave.

(Not a great day by any means, but will trudge along and add more bits to my Game over the weekend to work on next week)
 

terminator92

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What is your city is beautiful gambit?
“You know, this city is so beautiful, when I came here two years ago I was fascinated at how beautiful the city is and felt that it was so strange that some locals did not appreciate it. But now after two years I realize that after we start living in a city we get so consumed by our day to day tasks that we forget to appreciate the beauty of a city, and it fades into the background. So I take time out to sometimes sit and just look around and admire the beauty of the city”
 

terminator92

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It is getting quite tough to get my approaches in. Covid-19 situation is getting worse every day and people are staying in and wearing masks a lot more and I am working more hours and not being able to hit the streets at peak hours. But I do not want to stop so I am hanging in there and doing as many approaches as I can.

I already feel quite a difference as I have now prepared some default openers, gambits and stories to lead the conversation into certain topics. I feel more armed and confident that I have some tools at my disposal and not having to go in trying to think on the spot. Yesterday I could manage one approach.

Approach- It was already dark and on a Sunday evening. Went to the train station where I find stationary sets. Saw a cute looking girl eating some pizza and drinking a Starbucks. Went in first and opened with my indirect low key opener confirming if this was the main platform and telling her I was waiting for a friend and wanted to make sure this was it. She answered well but was still eating so I did not want to pressure her to talk with a mouthful so I said thanks and that I would just wait here for my friend and stood there busy on my phone a few feet away from her.
After she finished the pizza I went in again asking her if International trains arrive here as well and then quickly transitioned to a cold read about where she was from. She told me where she was from and that she was studying medicine. I then went into my prepared gambits about this city and its beauty and how we sometimes forget about it and she opened up and started telling me about the city she studies in and the city she is from etc. I then used my travel Gambit and then asked her if she could go anywhere in Europe where would she live and she told me about her trip to France and that she wanted to live there. So I had again gotten her onto the topic of travel successfully and we spoke about it some more. (Now that I am getting girls on to this topic smoothly I need to add in some gambits to turn the conversation flirty and qualify based on this topic.)

She was hooked on the conversation and told me about a few other things about studying medicine and living in a dorm and other things and then it was time for her to go. She said she had to go and then still stood there and chatted for a while longer. I then wished her a good evening and I again sensed that she kind of lingered and looked wondering if I would make any attempt to close or take her contact. (I mean I have done tons of direct Daygame where many a time the girl wanted to leave but I kept on talking to prevent that and was going for closes as she was pulling away.) Now I feel that even as I am ready to end the conversation with girls I feel I have hooked, they linger a bit before leaving which I feel is maybe them thinking I would close. This has happened to me twice now and one woman has asked me herself for my contact. But since I was in the head space of I have not yet qualified her and made it man-woman I did not go for the close and she smiled shook my hands and left.
 

terminator92

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Day 12

I still have not had the time to sit down and plan out more routines, gambits etc. which I have been meaning to do. However, today I hit the field at a good time as I wanted to get my 4 approaches in. Was able to hook two girls properly and semi-hook another girl so it was a good day.

1st Approach- At the train station I saw a cute blonde girl and I opened with my usual indirect opener asking about the train station and then tried to transition but the girl spoke no English whatsoever apart from the basic so I ejected.

2nd Approach- She was cute with stylish boots and she was sitting on a bench at the train station. However, she was wearing a mask. I sat down next to her, played with my phone for a while, I noticed that she registered my presence and then I opened with the my usual indirect opener and then proceeded to tell her that I was waiting for a friend and then I transitioned into an assumption about where she came from. At this point she took off her mask and then the conversation switched and she told me about her city. I then used one of my prepared transitions “I have noticed that there are two categories of locals here, the ones that love the city and the ones that absolutely hate it. Which one do you belong to?” and I smile. I have started using this rather than the boring “So do you like it here?” and it works better to open girls up for a conversation as it is not boring and seems different. At this point I noticed she shifted her body position and faced me more.

We then talked about the city and she volunteered and informed me that she is a dancer and performs at various shows. At this moment she told me she had been trying to buy a ticket on her phone and it was not working, I suggested that she should try the ticket machine. She said that she would and told me she will be back. She left bought the ticket and came back and sat next to me. I then continued the conversation and asked her if she was a ballet dancer and playfully said her height seems to be perfect for being a ballet dancer. I then told her that I have a friend who is a belly dancer and who wanted to do ballet but she was too tall and big boned for it. (This is true and she is a girl I have been seeing that I met doing Daygame. I used this as a DHV spike and wanted to say she was my-ex but I thought that would be too blatant and hence I just stuck with friend.) She asked me where I was from and I asked her to guess and gave her clues and she finally guessed right. She asked me a few other questions as to what I was doing here and my line of study etc. However, by this time she had to leave to get on her train and I knew I had not built any sexual interest here and so I wished her a good day and ejected.

3rd Approach- I saw a slightly older girl dressed well standing outside the entrance to a metro station. I hovered and then opened with my usual indirect opener and then made an assumption about where she was from and then commented about that part of the city. In this set I feel I lost track a bit as I did not steer the conversation with any purpose to where I wanted it to go. She was giving me eye-contact and took a 2 second pause after I stopped talking to reply. This made me unsure about myself but I think she was just doing it to understand what I was saying, think and reply as her English was not that good. She asked me where I was from and I made her guess and gave her a clue and she got it right. After this she told me about the sports she plays and we spoke about what sports I like and then bantered a bit about it and fitness. I had no control over this conversation and was not able to get the conversation on to the topic of travel which is the aim of the drill I was practising. After a while she had to leave and we bid each other goodbye.

4th Approach- I saw a girl sitting on a bench and the train station and I went over and sat on the bench next to her and then appeared immersed in my phone and then I opened with my usual indirect opener and then ran my gambits and transitioned smoothly to where she was from and the to the topic of travel and I asked her the question “If you could go/live anywhere where would you choose to live?” She picked a few cities and told me that she does skiing and loves the Alps. Her English was not that good but at some point in the conversation I noticed her play with her hair and touch the nape of her neck and wondered if that was in IOI. (I was astonished at this I have never been able to be calm enough in my head while doing direct Daygame to notice if the girl gave me an IOI. Now trying out indirect Game and having prepared routines and gambits has slowed my mind down a bit and hence I could notice this.)

We talked a bit more and then she had to get on her train and I said it was nice talking to her and just before saying bye asked for her name and in reply she asked if I was on Instagram. This threw me off a bit as this is the second time a girl asked for my details and this never happened before. I
finally exchanged Facebooks and she sent me a request. She had to then leave and I bid her goodbye.

However, I had not expressed any sexuality and it had been friendly, But I was curious to see what would happen so I accepted her FB friend request and then texted her a while later in the evening and then suggested we could grab a coffee together sometime and then she told me she had a BF. So I was perplexed by her asking for my contact and maybe this is because I was interesting and refreshing to talk to and just wanted to trade Instagram with me since she was not available at that time and was taken. Interestingly in the text conversation she also mentioned that her BF gets jealous easily so she tries not meet any guys one on one even as friends.

(All in all it was a good day. Structural Game with routines is really helping me a lot. I am noticing how girls are reacting as my mind has calmed down a bit since I have at least enough material prepared to direct and control a 10 minute interaction with ease. I will work on adding more routines and gambits to make more of an emotional impact and to then set man-woman frames soon.)
 

terminator92

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It is getting increasingly difficult to approach. The second wave of COVID has hit the city badly. Now inside malls, stores, public transport and most recently it has been made compulsory to wear a mask even on bus stops/tram stops and metro stops. This is a big blow as I used to do most of my approaching here on stationary sets. So I am ending this 30 day challenge as it is not realistically possible for me to approach 4 girls everyday due to the situation and my Uni schedule. However, I am not going to completely stop approaching. I will approach as and when possible and will be starting a separate journal to chronicle them. I will maybe come back and do the 30 day challenge later when the situation becomes more conducive.

I hope @topcat and @MrRapo are having better luck with their challenges though I have not seen updates from them for a while now. Anyways thanks for the support all of you. I did do some approaches today which I will chronicle in the new journal.
 

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It is getting increasingly difficult to approach. The second wave of COVID has hit the city badly. Now inside malls, stores, public transport and most recently it has been made compulsory to wear a mask even on bus stops/tram stops and metro stops. This is a big blow as I used to do most of my approaching here on stationary sets. So I am ending this 30 day challenge as it is not realistically possible for me to approach 4 girls everyday due to the situation and my Uni schedule. However, I am not going to completely stop approaching. I will approach as and when possible and will be starting a separate journal to chronicle them. I will maybe come back and do the 30 day challenge later when the situation becomes more conducive.

I hope @topcat and @MrRapo are having better luck with their challenges though I have not seen updates from them for a while now. Anyways thanks for the support all of you. I did do some approaches today which I will chronicle in the new journal.

hey dude, sorry to hear covid throwing a spanner in the works. You’ve been doing great so far, I’ll be stealing some of your gambits and conversation starters, when I get going again.

I’m still here, been off for the week to finish some urgent client work, but i will be getting back on the horse, from Monday. I haven’t given up ;) Keep on pushing bro, let’s hope this covid situation clears soon...
 

Madara Fire Annihilation

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Hey guys! I have dropped the ball a bit in the last few days. Saturday, Sunday and Monday I just could not approach. I was swamped. Yesterday I went out late and due to new Covid regulations everything shuts early and I found zero girls my age to approach.

I came back yesterday and drew up a game plan. I am trying to learn structured game and come up with my own routines, gambits etc. as I have until now been just doing direct opener Game. I also want to become a great conversationalist and learn to project intent through my subcomms and also develop a versatile Game that I can adopt to many scenarios and not just daygaming girls who are alone. To this end there are many things I can do. @Velasco recommended the YaReally Archive and I have been devouring it, it is absolutely great. Thanks for that!

I found this great part from the YaReally archive which I am sharing below. This is him giving advice to a guy who is struggling with conversations and has been only doing "Natural Game":

"That’s ’cause you’re mostly winging it. There’s no shame in making up a couple routines or practicing telling a DHV story or two. You’ll find Naturals tell the same stories over and over if you hang around them while they interact with different people. And right now you don’t have a ton of experience making shit up or have many interesting stories to tell, so it can help to have a little foot-hold planned.
You’re doing something like:
1) Approach
2) Opener
3) Cold-read
4) …waiting for her to contribute……..
5) Fail

lol VS something like:

1) Approach
2) Opener
3) Tease her about her answer
4) Cold-read
5) Transition to DHV story
6) Qualify her based on your story topic
7) Tease her for her answer (Push)
8) Just kidding, I love you (Pull)
9) Qualify her (but wait, can you–)
10) DHV story
11) Qualify her (at first I wasn’t sure about you, but now…)
12) Push for #-close
etc.


Like, you’re just using 10% of the arsenal available to you right now, and that 10% is pretty make-shift right now. Which is totally fine, you’re new and this takes time to build up. But just so you get an idea of what a difference it makes to have some cold-reads, stories, qualfying questions, etc. up your sleeve."

And this resonated with me as I have been struggling with the same problem. So I came up with some openers and some transitions to get the conversation on to topics I want to talk about and I wrote down a couple of openers, transitions to get to the topic of travel and then tell some travel stories of mine and then deep dive on travel. For now I just made this drill to get every set to this topic and tell my story about travel.

So now I can do this with either a guy or a girl of any age. I am still looking to talk to women but if I cannot find any women I find attractive I will still approach as I am now doing a drill to get better. And then I am looking to add more routines to accomplish the objectives listed above.
what city are you in. it would be pretty hard to approach given my location
 
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Sapphophire

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Female perspective: haha, I am here by mistake, but I read this. Had to observe how amazing that the universe was sending you just the women you needed. The non-English speakers offer interesting practice for your non-verbal presence. Without English, can you still awaken her, make her shine, make her laugh, make her day?

You seem committed to not being creepy, which is awesome. Can you non-creepily connect without English if you think of it as really tipping your hat to her whole radiant goddess being? I think a chef's kiss motion could be interesting.
About the girls who ultimately weren't that pretty: yes, of course, but on the other hand you could hold yourself responsible for that a bit more: can you make her shine? In life even if you're with the hottest, most amazing woman, it's often up to you whether her vibe is radiant or old potato. It's a cool skill.
One other observation: I wonder if calling them girls in your mind and write-ups is messing you up from seeing and working with them as sexual beings.
 
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