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How tf do I explain this... Yea, essentially you can walk her straight home from there if you've got great logistics and you're good at handling objections and bs. These invariably emerge if the interaction takes some time and she's suddenly becomes aware that "Oh shit I guess I'm going home with that guy for sex!" More on that later btw. Certainly you can escalate very quickly to a make-out. Which of course puts you on the map as "that mysterious hot guy" if you manage to contain yourself after. Or her buying temp is high, which it will be if you makeout with her and sex her up in a super confident manner in places like that. Like, she will beg you to come with her. And yeah, she will be in on it, she will want it, cuz it's a wild fantasy for them to be seduced in these places. IMHO a girl always wants to be seduced. So make her wish come true. In a seductive an attractive way of course.

Tho I'll just say this in advance, these days I'm way more chill and exclusively go for contact deets upon approach invitations, cuz I just can't be bothered. But then getting approach invitations means that you're in a special, attractive headspace anyway, so we might discuss that further too.

You've gotta be in whole 'nother head-space to pull off the super-fast park makeouts, but just know that it is possible! And if you do pull that off (and I recommend trying this at least if you're young-ish), you'll instantly go into her books as one of the most amazing things she's every experienced. Women might fantasize of of stuff like that, or perhaps read about it in dirty novels, but very few get to actually experience it. And the same goes for men lol. I've tried talking about this with regular guys, and it's just so foreign to most of them that they usually just laugh it off or hand-wave it away as pure fiction. But I figure we aren't regular men in here, so...

So, yeah, what's my state when pulling off these things? Why is it attractive?

Well, it's a bit hard to explain, but picture a dog strolling the streets, smelling trees, marking territory. Just content and maybe even a bit happy in his own world. Tongue out panting and everything. It'll maybe look at you and go "!" before moving on. Or if it comes over to you, it'll pant and be a bit curious, without going all in. In other words, it'll still contain it's own state and not be needy or creepy (unless threatened). But sometimes they go ❤ and come over for a cuddle and a scratch behind the ear. It might sniff a bit, find out about you in a non-needy way. But it's also ready to play in an instant, cuz you're a dog, and dogs are playful! So yeah, like that, only take away the dog parts and be human.......... I mean, isn't it obvious?!?!?? (Uh best I could do, ok...)

You don't have to be in this super "state" thing, but it helps if you're a bit curious, and that you don't give too much of a damn about what others think you're doing at any given moment. Hell, this is a good spot to visualize or kind of meditate.

Until you see her... Enter Mystery Method (at least for a short time). He's a master of social positioning, and the stuff he writes about that is actually good. (Meanwhile most of the verbal routines just get you in your head tbh) Here's what I found out works the best - straight outta MM. Go a little in front of the girl. Cock your head over your shoulder and open her like that. "O hi!" Then walk with her for a minute, and slow down as she hooks. Helps if you're already walking that way anyway.

(Opposite: Try to stop her from the front, or tap her shoulder form behind, and your chances of a successful open go drastically down. Thoroughly field tested. It can work, but usually doesn't compared to the cock-over-shoulder way, pun intended.)

Then plough some observations. "I couldn't help notice your cool jacket, shoes, bags, pattern, colour" - "omg what colour do you like best?" or even better "I bet your fav colour is red!" (A statement that doesn't even have to be true is like a mini cold read. Use them!) If she already gave you an approach invitation (smiled to you, or acknowledge you), you can perhaps skip the over the hook and go directly into some more comfort-building commonalities. If you want you can also go "direct" here with something like "I saw you from over there and just had to come over" kind of thing, were you're a bit more forward and confident - cuz in the end you both know why you're there, right.

Anyway, so it's when she's already a bit invested and curious about you that I'll hit her with one of these romantic bs lines. She's already hooked, and I'm turning things to 11 for a while, before taking her back down. "What do you do?" "Who me? I.... seduce women on the streets..." (Bite lips coyly and look deep into her eyes).

If it gets too intense you can always just laugh at your own joke, so to speak, and tell her "just kidding". Always have an out. But try not to use it. For science! Try to live in that uncomfortable moment, especially if it makes your dick hard at the same time. Or use it to escalate.

Btw. I assume that you're still holding her hand here, after the initial greet. This is important. It goes like this (Cred: 60), shake hands when you finally agree to present yourself to each other - but instead of letting her hand go just after - just loosen or soften the grip a bit, but keep holding onto her hand. Often this will give you a ton of great intel about her interest level, how dtf she is. From this you get a much better picture of what's possible to do fast than if you try going off other signals. Does she pull her hand away fast? Ah, she needs more comfort. Does she keep holding onto your hand, or even cuddle you a bit: Put your business socks on cuz it's business time! (I.e. she's ready for escalation.)

This is how I gauge if she's ready for more, or if I should be more careful. In the beginning, not being able to handle that, or also being too intense, may lead to more rejections. But that's also how you learn to calibrate. (Until you get frustrated, in which case it's actually better to just stop, meditate a bit, calm down, perhaps go to a coffee show and pipe down for a while, recharge for a bit, and ready for a new round.)

These things are also to a large degree mood reliant, so if you go out and try these things during a festival, you're gonna get wildly different results than if you do this like 8 O' clock in the morning during your commute...

If she does hook, I'll lock eyes with her, hypnotically, and peer and - like - peer into her soul. Maybe bite my lip during, but keep talking normally. This deep, unflinching, yet friendly look tends to turn women on wildly. Just from that alone, sexual tension may flow. And that's when you can also crack a playful joke, or say something dumb to her question back. "How about you, what do you do then?" "I... I please women....." Hold onto for a moment. Watch her giggle, and you know you've got her.

Now here's a tid-bit on LMR and objections: If you manage to qualify her as a naughty girl, and more importantly a girl that is naughty with you, then she becomes that much easier to both take home and undress once you get there. Like, most PUA doodes seem to advice the pre-empting objections with "don't think we'll have sex just because you get to go home with me!" Meanwhile I've had a way easier time going "you're such a naughty girl.... I like it!"
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Girls always want to be seduced, and always want to be kissed. That is indeed the type of stuff they dream about. Whether single or not.
I just got to get myself to remember this all the time, and actually live this reality.
 
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D. Gately

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I've never gotten feedback that I kissed too quickly.

But I have been told the reverse by women I've banged. One 20yr after our terrific first day-date texted me "Why didn't you kiss me?" I was still slow to escalate back then.

We ended up at a hotel on our 2nd date. By the 3rd date I had figured out she was super-submissive and would do anything I wanted. 90% of these girls you just gotta be leading the whole time & tell them what you/they want to do.
 
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