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No average guy reach 80 lays so easily. You are so out of touch with reality. You are already considered "good".

And this goes to my point.




Reality.
Reality.
Reality.

If you read most of the guys here including myself, all of them could get at least 50 lays just after reading Girlschase.

But as you said: Closing.
That's one part and there's lots of parts of game and luck playing all at once.

Reality. Reality is important.

There's a saying by Chase. I'm not sure how accurate this is. "you can get 100 lays and still be kinda not familiar with girls."

Props to your 80 lays. If it's quality you like, I'm happy, genuinely happy for you. But really. I do feel that most of this '100 lays unlock' among PUA forums are females that are 'low hanging fruit'. You should not be jealous given how you have your stats, unless the prior is what is missing.

I see them as guys who spent thousands of dollars on Facebook ads and gets success. Which is something I sincerely can learn from. Have a thick uncombustible ego that you can get rejected like crazy and still feel empowered to reach 100 lays.

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Yeah definitely many low hanging fruit there lol. Most girls have been attractive but not worth putting in alot of effort for. A handful of real beauties in there as well.

It was only in the beginning of 2021 where I told myself i wouldnt sleep with anyone else that i dont find stunning.

Thanks for the tips and the reality check Zac
 

trashKENNUT

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Yeah definitely many low hanging fruit there lol. Most girls have been attractive but not worth putting in alot of effort for. A handful of real beauties in there as well.

It was only in the beginning of 2021 where I told myself i wouldnt sleep with anyone else that i dont find stunning.

Thanks for the tips and the reality check Zac

I'm sure you can quickly rise up and recognize the problem easily. I still didn't help solve most of your problem.

I'm sure some of the senior guys can bump their quality problem post. Here's some post to start.

@uriel , you send me a message long time ago about this problem as well. The quality problem. I really didn't saw that message until late late last year.

TLDR:

I really don't believe there's a specific place where you can find "quality girls". Maybe aside from the 'lay low pubs' where they sell burgers, fish n chips, cocktails, rich areas in shopping centers and outside of it where people are walking, or invites to shows/media or those INSTAGRAM tagged places where influencers go.

But those places are where influencers go. Not high value people go there all the time. They themselves can be 'Air head'. They only look "high value" on media.

This is an example post where Girlschase members can refer to. Reactions versus Results. Opening Effect vs Closing Effect. Looks or Fundamentals vs Game.

You kinda need both.


You just don't really know.
And there's a lot of social climbers.

Maybe the other guys can bump up their links.

Here's here:







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Zoro

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This situation is akin to you having enough skill to walk onto a D2 college basketball team as a point guard, but somehow being jealous of your untrained friend that can dunk a basketball and get a couple "wows" from some passerby just because he's tall.

Agree with this.

I also have a male model friend who makes women lose their shit when he comes around. He also has good game and so probably has triple digit count now.

I also know he doesn't always have a walk in a park, and what has made things easier for him was... wait for it.... Learning game.

I know he has gone through rocky relationship issues that everyone deals with, he gets rejected, he fucks up.

As for your question, for us non-male model chads, I imagine the answer is something similar to Beam's story about his disco outfit, or Gunwitch's Santa costume. Give girls a reason to want to fight over your attention, it doesn't have to be based on your physical looks. It can be status, vibe, or some really great/fun peacocking.
 

ElderPrice

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My question is, how do I get to that level?
Out of curiosity, what's your answer to this question? Your honest answer. Or in other words, if I ask you this question, what would your answer be?

My answer is:
There's probably nothing you can do practically speaking to get your "average" self the same attention as an elite physical specimen.

However, as previously mentioned in this thread, there is something you can try: old-fashioned peacocking. I think I was reading a fairly recent GC article where they pointed out that a bunch of standard things are forms of peacocking. Things like having big muscles, a well-groomed beard, etc.

You can peacock in the fashion battlefield. Dress up as the disco example, or as Mystery, and I'm sure the attention you receive will explode.

If you don't want to peacock, and you instead want to look more normal - like everyone else in the venue - then you can't complain when a specimen just has to show up and automatically peacock with his 6'4 frame.

One other idea that hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread:
Changing the battlefield.

First off, define victory. Legit seducing and sleeping with a 10? Okay.. why would you want to attempt this in a club where all the 10s are looking at your friend? Go somewhere without your friend, and where all eyes are on you. Maybe an open mic night, karaoke, or teaching a yoga class. You can win, but why are you trying to compete in HIS domain? Win in YOUR domain. That's part of the game, too.
 

trashKENNUT

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You can win, but why are you trying to compete in HIS domain? Win in YOUR domain. That's part of the game, too

I sincerely ask guys to not compete in dance battles unless you know what u doing.

Yeap. Compete in your fashion style or domain, Example: you are a trainer.

Club dance battles and Friends dance battles can be two different things. One is survival of the fittest and the other is camaraderie.

Many men throughout history have died in those dance battles. XD

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Beam

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Find ways to look like a celebrity. There a a lot of good looking dudes out there, but celebrities, that's something else. I'm continuing to work on this and since we're similar let me know if you find something that works for you and I'll do the same.

As promised - made a discovery which I've detailed in my journal. Probably obvious but I wore some more jewellery last night. I usually wear one single necklace - last night I wore a second one (both silver, one with dog tags and another with a blue gem). Also wore a ring. I noticed an immediate difference in how I looked - more rockstar-esque. Got a lot of attention and IOIs last night from it. Bought some more today - watch, ring and some bracelets. Only have one tatt but thinking about possibly getting more.

Also with Johnny Depp in the news recently it reminded me of growing up when all the girls in school were crushing on Jack Sparrow (keep in mind Johnny Depp was like 40 and these girls were around my age - 13 lol). Obviously he was doing something right. Have been looking at him for inspo.
 

Rain

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Also wore a ring
I've never tried wearing a ring. Was it on your left hand? Which finger was it?

Was it a gold or silver ring or like a mood ring?
 
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Beam

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I've never tried wearing a ring. Was it on your left hand? Which finger was it?

Was it a gold or silver ring or like a mood ring?

It was a silver ring with a small red gem that I picked up from a market where I live. It's hard to describe but it has a shape that sort of looks like this (where the gem is where the small groove on right is in that example). I wore in on my left hand on the index finger, no particular reason for that, it fit best there.
 

Beck Bass

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It was a silver ring with a small red gem that I picked up from a market where I live. It's hard to describe but it has a shape that sort of looks like this (where the gem is where the small groove on right is in that example). I wore in on my left hand on the index finger, no particular reason for that, it fit best there.
Cool stuff, I would like to try some of this but my girl is gonna get mad if I'm using rings for peacocking when I haven't even got one for her (for our relationship that is) lmao
 
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