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Going for the close!!
It wouldn't have gone anywhere. If she had wanted to hang out more with me she could have stayed, but she chose to leave quite abruptly.

In fact as she was getting up to leave, I asked her how long she was planning to stay, and she said she didn't know. So compliance was gone at this point

Best I could hope for was a graceful exit, which I got with the hug.

As far as her having flirted with another guy, this will serve to start her getting interested in sex, so is a good sign.
Damn, i like this! It didn't occur to me to think of it that way.

Instead of seeing previous guy as competition, I should be thankful for him to warm the girl up for me. *evil grin*

Next time I'll know better!
 
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AspiringStoic

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Best I could hope for was a graceful exit, which I got with the hug.
Graceful exits dont get you anything. If you start getting abrupt exits and blatant no's, then you are exposing yourself to the possibility of getting yes's.

And the yes's will come sooner or later. You have to be able to stomach no's to get yes's.

But yeah I dont want to belabour the point. If it helps, heed the advice.
 

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Graceful exits dont get you anything
I profoundly disagree with that. I go to that beach a lot. There are regulars and people that work there, so reputation is important.

Also the next girl I approach might be watching. It's happened before that a girl I approached, who was quite receptive, told me she had seen me talk to some girls on a previous day (I think this was in my very first FR here, a Korean girl in an open relationship)


And the yes's will come sooner or later.
This I agree with :)


You have to be able to stomach no's to get yes's.
It's not about being able to stomach it, lol. I've been taking girls' numbers since my first SNL when I was in my mid-late teens.

So I do have some sort of idea when it makes sense to go for it and when not. If she hadn't given me an evasive answer when I asked how long she's staying, I might have gone for it. But she was literally getting up and about to walk off.

Who knows maybe I'll see her again even. It's a small world!
 
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Oops, I did it again. Got an AI from a hottie on the beach, and couldn't approach.

It was a hard one though. There were guys lying on 2 sides of her, facing her way and probably checking her out (no wonder, since she was the hottest single girl in the area). I was sitting a bit higher on some steps, in the shade. While I was checking her out she turned her head toward me several times, and made some grimace which I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be a smile or not. Couldn't really tell since she had large sun glasses on.

AA struck and the longer I sat there, the less I could approach. I was also just about to leave the beach because I was hungry, then came by an area with a few interesing girls so I decided to stop there for a minute and sit down and decide if and who to approach. Most girls were in 2 or 3 sets so I focused on the one that was by herself. She had a great slim body, nice tan, and dark hair piled up on her head. Might have been Italian or Spanish.

I think the main thing holding me back was the fact that there was an older guy (older than me likely), sitting directly opposite me, staring her way all the time. He was with several other people, but those weren't looking. There was another dude too though, lying a bit to the left, who was also facing in the girl's direction. So it felt very much like approaching her would have put me in the spotlight. I've done it before with other guys watching, but this time, I couldn't. Also I had a hard time reading the expression of the girl with her sun glasses on. I couldn't decide whether she wanted me to approach or was annoyed by me looking over.

While I was sitting there a 2 or 3 set of girls walked by, I liked a tattoo that she had on her arm so I told her, she took a second and a half too long to react, then just glanced at me and said "yes" without stopping. That stung a little and didn't help with confidence to approach the hot one.

I had one good approach later on, a Chinese girl who had just arrived here from Beijing. She hooked quite easily and we chatted for a while, then I suggested we go for a walk and she accepted. At one point I asked her if she had plans for the evening, she said she had to prepare for a conference she is attending tomorrow. There wasn't much sexual tension, I wasn't very attracted to her though I guess I could have done her if she'd been super open. But after a while of walking and a bit of touch, I felt the vibe getting slightly uncomfortable from her side.

I find it real hard to flirt with Chinese women. There was quite a bit of a language barrier, I had to ask her to repeat herself several times. Also there are the cultural differences. Like I asked about her Zodiac and she had no idea what that is. We ended up exchanging birth dates, lol. She guessed my age at 30 (grin) so that was nice. I said 41, which is at least a little closer to the truth :)

Anyway, I asked her what her plans were for the evening, my idea was to go for an insta date but she said she had to prepare for the conference. She also mentioned a colleague of her's who would be arriving later today.

After that it started to feel a bit pointless to keep walking down the beach with her, at one point I suggested we change direction which would have taken us closer to my place, but she said she probably has to go back to her hotel so I decided to let her go and hugged her good bye. She thanked me for my company, so looks like at least we both enjoyed the interaction even though it didn't go further.

The other day I had a similiar problem with a Taiwanese girl I met on the beach. That one I found kind of cute, though like today's girl, her sense of fashion was very basic to non existent. But I liked her dark hair, and I think she had a nice body. I approached her commenting on the view, and she hooked quite nicely. We chatted for a while, but just like with today's girl, I couldn't tell at all if she was into me. With western girls, I usually don't find it that hard.

The Taiwanese one got a call from her friends at some point and said she had to go join them, so we shook hands and she went on her way.

So that encounter was at least decent. But I'm annoyed that today, I again managed to not approach a girl who was looking at me and quite possibly wanted me to. It wasn't clear to me in the moment, but in hindsight, I'm pretty sure she did.

So yeah this is still a sticking point for me. I have managed to approach girls that gave me IOIs a few times, so at least it looks like I'm slowly improving. Even with dudes watching, which felt extra cool because those dudes looked really thirsty and frankly were staring quite annoyingly, at least in one case.

But today for whatever reason I couldn't. Gotta do better next time!

EDIT: And before you tell me I shouldn't worry about AIs and just approach. I know, and I'm doing it every day. But it's especially annoying when I get a hot girl who seems to want to be approached, and that just boosts my AA to the stratosphere and I end up not talking to her.
 
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ChrisXKiss

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And before you tell me I shouldn't worry about AIs and just approach. I know, and I'm doing it every day. But it's especially annoying when I get a hot girl who seems to want to be approached, and that just boosts my AA to the stratosphere and I end up not talking to her.
I think the best solution in this situations is to just go immediately after the IOI. Ok you don't have to run there, but the moment it registers as an invitation to go and talk to her, which could range from something playful like "you can't be looking at me like that and not saying hi" to something genuine like "hey, you look really elegant".

Saying this because I have had situations myself where a girl notices me, looks towards me, and I start thinking if this was an IOI, if I should approach and how to do it, and then you lose the spontaneity and it all feels manufactured when you eventually go for it. Unless you have a smooth way of reengaging with her later in an environment you know she will be in for a while, and it would be natural for you two to cross paths again.

The more she thinks you noticed her too though and had been thinking about the approach before doing it the worse. And I think this is something we realise naturally that's why after the first hesitation to approach it starts getting more difficult by the moment.
Oops, I did it again. Got an AI from a hottie on the beach, and couldn't approach.
How you know you've been focusing too much on work and not enough on girls: You read this sentence and wonder what kind of AI model would a hot girl give you at the beach, is she promoting chatgpt or something 🤣
 

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I think the best solution in this situations is to just go immediately after the IOI.
Yeah that would probably have been best. That's the weird thing with these stationary situations on the beach, I'm sitting or lying, and so is the girl. Then she looks at you and you're like, Does she want me to approach? or does she think I'm a creep for checking her out? Then you try to figure it out and get more and more nervous...

Anyway, the couple of times I've managed to actually go and approach in those situations were well received. So it's probably best to "always assume attraction" and go for it.
 
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