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KnownUniverse

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I’m sure everyone here would agree that there’s no use asking for help and advice until you’ve done everything in your own power to help yourself, correct? If anyone disagrees speak up.

my biggest issue at the moment is lack of persistence. Ejecting from interactions after getting a weak response instead of ploughing forward forcing her the engage in conversation.

another issue is when girls show signs of interest I start playing it safe and refrain from escalating as to not scare her away resulting in her losing interest in me.

there’s no point me asking advice until I’ve fixed these issues then I can say I’m doing everything in my power to succeed.
 

KnownUniverse

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I realised no one really reads these journals so I might just write some brain vomit--I'm bored:

I spoke to someone who’s killing it in game and bragging about their success I reminded them that they live in Barcelona—They rely almost entirely on friendly travellers to approach. Yeah, with those women, a simple hello and compliment is all that’s needed to start a relationship. Those women are in the market, so to speak—they are looking for new people to meet so it’s way easier to game them than say if you were living in Manchester and had to rely on the local women for dates.

Those women have completely different attitudes than the ones on a holiday half way across the globe. I mean, we’re all familiar with the meme of the young female backpacker that travels the world sleeping with a different dude in every country. Tbh, it's a pre-covid meme when cold approach was main stream but it proves me point: if most of your success is coming from approaching out of town travellers, well, you’re kind of picking the low hanging fruit. Not too low of course, that’s saved for the western dudes that travel to developing countries. Pulling backpackers still requires game.

Now, local women--especially in countries like England, Australia and Canada--they really are the hardest to game don’t you think? When they are out and about during the day they are never casually strolling around like they’re in a museum the way travellers do coming across as extremely approachable. No--local girls, if they are alone, are usually storming through the streets with a mean look on their face like the friggin gestapo.

The only time you find them casually strolling is when they are grocery shopping so you’re limited to approaching them in busy supermarkets within ear shot of your local community members. But on the gritty city streets where most of us like to run our approaches how do they behave? Yeah, very closed off.

Unless they are with a friend (which is always) which brings me to the second obstacle: their attitude when they are with a friend is completely different than when they are alone. Suddenly their arrogance and confidence goes through the roof. No different than boys. And the last thing they want to do is show weakness in front of their friends by letting themselves get seduced by some normie. I always despised that when i was young--the boys that acted tough, cocky and rude around their friends but polite wimps when they're alone.

When local girls are alone the worse way they'll reject you is by ignoring you or saying "sorry" and rushing off. When they are with their friends suddenly they are much more brutal--They will sometimes scream at you or the friend will yell at you to f-off because she's jealous she's not getting hit on or sometimes if you say "Hi" they'll look at each other like you're a crazy person. it's fake bravado because she's with her friends.


But the biggest obstacle with local girls is simply their attitude—they aren’t in the market for making new friends so every stranger that’s approaches them is quickly categorised as a weirdo. This is why you need top tier game in this environment.

And while I do recognise the skill required for dudes to pull in cities like Barcelona, Miami and London I still take it with a grain of salt--because they are mostly working on travelling women. It’s funny when you think about it. That friendly warm Italian girl you approached in Barcelona and went on an Instadate with would probably be an entirely different person if you hit on her in her home town while she was on her way home from work or something her mindset would be more like “fuck off, I’ve had a big day I don’t want to deal with your shit” instead of "wow, hello! who is this kind stranger come to greet me".

Hmm, I really do sound like a cynical old bastard don't I. Old man ramblings right here. Well, I see it as a good thing because despite how cynical I am I still see hope. I think that means a lot more than if it came from someone with rose colored glasses.

I wish I could ramble like this when i talked to attractive women though but instead i get mental blocks and dont know what to say without feeling like an idiot. Maybe that's my god-tier intuition telling me that rambling to hotties will turn them off?

Did someone say rose-colored glasses?
 
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average_daygamer

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Wait, I've not seen this thread before. Are you approaching in the UK?

Interesting interaction in the club with your hat being snatched.

I actually had a similar incident with a group of girls who actually formed a "pack" and chased me off the 1st floor out onto the ground floor.

They can be surprisingly aggressive little shits, can't they?

That move she did by turning you by the shoulder was a step too far.

That was the approach I did on a girl that got a bad blowout which lead to the incident where they chased me off.

And that wasn't even in an angry way!

Well done on the night out. Staying out til 5am though? Sheesh.

I normally leave the club by 3am at the latest, I need those few hours of sleep!

Edit: I've just read back through your thread and realised that I have already commented.

You do not live in the UK, but a commonwealth country, which makes me think either NZ or Australia.

But confusingly, your post nightgame field report has come through at 5am UK time, which, along with the context of your rant about girls on the gritty Manchester city streets, made me think you were in the UK.

It's a shame you are not as I would suggest a linkup otherwise as I am also solo all the time out here in the UK.
 

KnownUniverse

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An approach means being in set and putting an effort into closing:

This loosely defined term in the pua community needs clarification. The blackpill youtuber named Wheat Waffles claimed to have done 500 cold approaches resulting in only 1 date. I've heard similar complaints from a lot of people. I'm willing to bet 75% of those approaches weren't actual approaches but weak opens or non-closes.

FYI: saying hello to a woman and getting ignored or instantly blown off within the first few minutes is not an approach. You did an open. You did a friendly greeting. You didnt approach anyone. What you did was no different than what those salespeople do at kiosk booths. You pinged a bunch of random people and ejected.

An approach is classified as starting a conversation with a woman, running your game (whatever your method is) then going for the close and either getting rejected or succeeding. THAT is an approach.
 
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