How does a 49 year old virgin make up for what he missed?

[Beam]

How rich and how famous? "Be rich and famous" isn't enough advice. Compare this to all the guides on how to build a proper Instagram page. They boil it down to the number of followers you need and the kinds of pictures you should take.

Now, these guides are not what I'm looking for, these guides are more for how you can build an Instagram nice enough to show "cute randoms." I'm looking to be valuable enough that women who are already famous/valuable will see me as valuable and follow me.

You're trying to run before you can walk.

Actually, scratch that - you're SAYING you would like to run and SAYING you are willing to walk to get there, but I'm doubtful you are going to do anything besides sitting around. Like J Wick, not responding anymore until you go out, work and come back with real questions.

 

[FrothySolutions]

You're trying to run before you can walk.

Actually, scratch that - you're SAYING you would like to run and SAYING you are willing to walk to get there, but I'm doubtful you are going to do anything besides sitting around. Like J Wick, not responding anymore until you go out, work and come back with real questions.

What? Game and fundamentals? I'm aware. I know I need to work on those. And I shall, I promise you. I've been hitting fundamentals before I knew this forum was a place.

For some reason people have got it in their heads that I'm trying to skip those. I'm not. I just wanna know what there is AFTER all this approaching stuff. How do I start achieving the stuff I actually care about? Because as I just said, the women in my area? Zero interest. I will pursue them if you say I have to. But I don't like them. At this point, I'm so frustrated I think I hate them. The way you insist I have to pursue these women who are nothing to me.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

Maybe he just got a mediocre hooker.

I would not go to a run-of-the-mill prostitute, or to a brothel for this. I would find a high-priced escort who provides the "girlfriend experience". It will be pricy, but it's worth it. Like thousands of dollars pricy, but if you can't get the "real thing" (a relationship with a beautiful woman), a facsimile of it (a beautiful woman pretending to be your girlfriend for a moment) is well worth it, so at least you don't die without having experienced that excitement. There are some women out there who are more beautiful than any you could seduce using game on the street, club, or bar, and they do provide a reasonably accurate level of engagement that makes you feel like you're part of a relationship. But again, they are pricy - depending on length of time you spend, thousands to tens of thousands of dollars pricy. But in this guy's situation, it will be worth it.

For example, if you want to look up one that I highly recommend, take the first name of singer Lana Del Rey, and the last name of action hero Indiana Jones, put them together, and search for that if you so desire. She has her own site that shows you photos of her, lists all of her requirements, how to contact her, and proper protocol.

Escorts are completely just the wrong solution entirely. In fact, I struggle to think of any situation where escorts are a good option.

As a guy who spent his 20s sleeping with majority escorts/quasi hookers. One of the biggest/only regrets of my life is hookers.

If you keep investing in hookers you'll always look at guys in relationships or guys sleeping with women for free as above you and be jealous of them. Put the work in and learn game, deal with your inner emotional and mental issues, then go meet people and offer a genuine energy.

Women value confidence is what I've learned from my limited non paid sex adventures.

 

[Beck Bass]

Do you have first hand experience with this that you can reference and explain why you would dissuade someone from doing this?

Or are you just making a blanket generalization about something you don't have experience with?

I personally have experience with traditional dating (20s through 30s), sugar dating, and escorting. I can actually speak on all of these from experience.

“The gods gave men two gifts to entertain ourselves before we die. The thrill of fucking a woman who wants to be fucked, and the thrill of killing a man who wants to kill you” – Daario Naharis

Enough of the pro talk here, this a seduction forum, not an escort recomendation site

The kind of women I'd like to meet aren't in "my area." They're high status Internet women. They're on the Internet. If Step 1 involves liking the women in my area, I'm already stuck. Because I don't like the women in my area.

So, basically, you have no idea if they even exist. "Women on the internet" aren't who they really are. They only post what they want you to see, how they want you to see it. Besides the obvious, like photoshop, facetune, only taking photos on certain angles, with lots of make up, hair done (though those look good on real life too and I really enjoy them, but of course a real woman won't be like this all the time). If the problem is your area, then try moving to another place, where there's more women like the ones you imagine you would like, but at this point, it seems to me you don't even have much of a concept of what a woman even is.

I will pursue them if you say I have to. But I don't like them. At this point, I'm so frustrated I think I hate them. The way you insist I have to pursue these women who are nothing to me.

If you feel like this, then there's no point, most of what a woman searches for is actually to be admired/desired by a man (a desirable one, of course). You can fake it, but most girls will notice it, and you won't have the motivation you need to improve in the way that you need to, anyway.
My suggestion for you is to quit seeing women on the internet, quit porn, quit Instagram, quit all that bullshit filled, artificial world. Then go out there, and you shall see the real beauty of women. There's no way you can't find a SINGLE girl you're attracted to around you. Women love those who love them, so if you can't love them, what are you after really? What's the point of trying to lose your virginity, anyway? (That said, the feel of wet pussy is one of the biggest wonders one can enjoy, I just fail to understand how come you can't find a single girl around you attractive...)

 

[FrothySolutions]

So, basically, you have no idea if they even exist. "Women on the internet" aren't who they really are. They only post what they want you to see, how they want you to see it. Besides the obvious, like photoshop, facetune, only taking photos on certain angles, with lots of make up, hair done (though those look good on real life too and I really enjoy them, but of course a real woman won't be like this all the time). If the problem is your area, then try moving to another place, where there's more women like the ones you imagine you would like, but at this point, it seems to me you don't even have much of a concept of what a woman even is.


If you feel like this, then there's no point, most of what a woman searches for is actually to be admired/desired by a man (a desirable one, of course). You can fake it, but most girls will notice it, and you won't have the motivation you need to improve in the way that you need to, anyway.
My suggestion for you is to quit seeing women on the internet, quit porn, quit Instagram, quit all that bullshit filled, artificial world. Then go out there, and you shall see the real beauty of women. There's no way you can't find a SINGLE girl you're attracted to around you. Women love those who love them, so if you can't love them, what are you after really? What's the point of trying to lose your virginity, anyway?

Her reputation and presence are real. I mentioned it in another thread, but what I'm attracted to is her status. Her fame for being a fuckable person. In a world of so-so women, here's a woman it would be very special to get to have sex with.

I maintain that I don't really watch porn. I definitely don't seek it out, but I do stumble upon it when I'm on Reddit. Or when I have to look up a porn star who happens to somehow be friends with some random Internet dude so I can show the Skilled Seducer forums an example of the kind of man I'm trying to be. Nor am I really on Instagram. I used to be, but I've only come back recently. For the whole "Find the kind of men I'd like to be and show them to Skilled Seducer" thing.

But if that's still not enough of a detox, what should I do, and for how long? When am I supposed to start feeling things for the women I see around?

And finally, what am I after? I'm after making up for what I missed. I'm not saying the universe owes me payback for my being a virgin throughout my twenties. But to meet and have sex with some random woman my age? After missing out on my twenties AND thirties? And be happy with that? Fuck that. And no, fucking some college kid wouldn't make up for it either. It's not the age of the women that's the issue. It's that I can't actually "be" 20 again. In college. Immersed in that social environment again. So I need to find something just as good or better. Something that will make me not be sad that I didn't get to live like a normal twentysomething. Or a normal thirtysomething.

 

[ElderPrice]

@FrothySolutions

Assuming you're not a troll...

Your OP sounds exactly like me when I started this journey. Naive, depressed, but with some logic, and a strong desire to avoid the bullshit. You want help, but you don't quite understand the path in front of you. I started the journey as a 30ish year old virgin.

I've been at this for years making slow and steady progress. I still have a long way to go.

You want clear answers and direction on how to reach your goal? Here you go...

1. Find a therapist that specializes in CBT for social anxiety. The reason you are a 49 year old virgin is because you have many negative, limiting, incorrect thoughts and beliefs in your head, and you've probably had them for decades. CBT will help correct them.

2. If you're 49, you should have enough money for a seduction coach. Hire one ASAP. This will be the fastest way to learn how to seduce women.

3. How do you live happily despite not reaching your goal yet? The answer is to find happiness in the present moment. Try it right now. Seriously. Try it. Try focusing your thoughts on the actual NOW. Not 20 years ago, not 10 years in the future. Not 2 minutes ago, not 1 hour from now. Try to find the exact present. Now, create your own happiness in the present moment. If that means listening to a song, that's okay. If that means watching TV, that's okay. Work on feeling good in the exact present, as often as you can.

4. I also had difficulty finding interest in any hobbies at the start of my journey. That is until I realized.... getting good with women is a hobby! Making seduction a hobby is generally frowned upon, but in this case I don't think it's a problem. You want to get better with women and you have a STRONG motivation to do it. Good. Make it your focus in life, as it should be for someone in your situation.

5. Understand that the #1 problem with anxiety is it causes you to not take action. Always take action, and you'll always be making progress.

Good luck! If you put in the work, I firmly believe there is light at the end of the tunnel that involves lots of sex with beautiful, young women. I believe you can do this!

 

[ulrich]

The kind of women I'd like to meet aren't in "my area." They're high status Internet women. They're on the Internet. If Step 1 involves liking the women in my area, I'm already stuck. Because I don't like the women in my area.

OK, so I have to ask… what is your obsession with internet famous pornstars?

Like, why do you need them to notice you?
And what is supposed to happen once you have connected with them over Instagram? Do you think they will come and fuck you?

I don’t understand where this obsession comes from… and pal, beggars can’t be choosers.

 

[FrothySolutions]

@FrothySolutions

Assuming you're not a troll...

Your OP sounds exactly like me when I started this journey. Naive, depressed, but with some logic, and a strong desire to avoid the bullshit. You want help, but you don't quite understand the path in front of you. I started the journey as a 30ish year old virgin.

I've been at this for years making slow and steady progress. I still have a long way to go.

You want clear answers and direction on how to reach your goal? Here you go...

1. Find a therapist that specializes in CBT for social anxiety. The reason you are a 49 year old virgin is because you have many negative, limiting, incorrect thoughts and beliefs in your head, and you've probably had them for decades. CBT will help correct them.

2. If you're 49, you should have enough money for a seduction coach. Hire one ASAP. This will be the fastest way to learn how to seduce women.

3. How do you live happily despite not reaching your goal yet? The answer is to find happiness in the present moment. Try it right now. Seriously. Try it. Try focusing your thoughts on the actual NOW. Not 20 years ago, not 10 years in the future. Not 2 minutes ago, not 1 hour from now. Try to find the exact present. Now, create your own happiness in the present moment. If that means listening to a song, that's okay. If that means watching TV, that's okay. Work on feeling good in the exact present, as often as you can.

4. I also had difficulty finding interest in any hobbies at the start of my journey. That is until I realized.... getting good with women is a hobby! Making seduction a hobby is generally frowned upon, but in this case I don't think it's a problem. You want to get better with women and you have a STRONG motivation to do it. Good. Make it your focus in life, as it should be for someone in your situation.

5. Understand that the #1 problem with anxiety is it causes you to not take action. Always take action, and you'll always be making progress.

Good luck! If you put in the work, I firmly believe there is light at the end of the tunnel that involves lots of sex with beautiful, young women. I believe you can do this!

1. See, cognitive behavioral therapy is basically training yourself to feel differently about stuff. For instance, if I neglected my health because I have some deep resentment of myself or something about myself. CBT is basically "Stop hating yourself, we're gonna work on reaffirming that you are good, and not to be hated." And that's great if you've got a problem with self-neglect. Because that is an "incorrect thought." But I feel like my thoughts are correct. To change them is to train myself to enjoy the taste of a shit sandwich.

2. I'm not looking to seduce "cute randoms." Or even "very sexy randoms." I'm only pursuing that because SkilledSeducer.com tells me it's a necessary step to getting what I actually want, which is attention from famous Internet sluts. There are men who do it, if I could somehow hit on whatever it is that earned them that appreciation...

3. Do I have to give up on my dream of getting followed on the Internet by porn stars and fitness models? Because right now in this moment, that's my greatest desire. That, and maybe sleep. If we're talking about basest, simplest, most instinctual and immediate desires. Right this second it is late and I want to go to sleep. Sleep and Internet sluts, that's all I want.

4. I only want to be as good as I need to be for what I really want: Attention from simp traps.

5. I don't think I'm anxious.

OK, so I have to ask… what is your obsession with internet famous pornstars?

Like, why do you need them to notice you?
And what is supposed to happen once you have connected with them over Instagram? Do you think they will come and fuck you?

I don’t understand where this obsession comes from… and pal, beggars can’t be choosers.

I don't want to be a beggar. That's why I'm here. To learn what it is about men like Black Freckles and VISneakerBoy that get Internet famous porn stars to take interest in them, and then improve myself to emulate that example.

If I do this? Well, maybe those porn stars will fuck me. Maybe they won't. But they like me. Out of the thousands of men they could choose from, they chose me, and maybe like a hundred other dudes. Out of many several thousand. It feels good to be part of that kind of social circle. Yeah, that's it. I want a social circle of famous Internet porn stars and the people who associate with them.

 

[Beam]

1. See, cognitive behavioral therapy is basically training yourself to feel differently about stuff. For instance, if I neglected my health because I have some deep resentment of myself or something about myself. CBT is basically "Stop hating yourself, we're gonna work on reaffirming that you are good, and not to be hated." And that's great if you've got a problem with self-neglect. Because that is an "incorrect thought." But I feel like my thoughts are correct. To change them is to train myself to enjoy the taste of a shit sandwich.

2. I'm not looking to seduce "cute randoms." Or even "very sexy randoms." I'm only pursuing that because SkilledSeducer.com tells me it's a necessary step to getting what I actually want, which is attention from famous Internet sluts. There are men who do it, if I could somehow hit on whatever it is that earned them that appreciation...

3. Do I have to give up on my dream of getting followed on the Internet by porn stars and fitness models? Because right now in this moment, that's my greatest desire. That, and maybe sleep. If we're talking about basest, simplest, most instinctual and immediate desires. Right this second it is late and I want to go to sleep. Sleep and Internet sluts, that's all I want.

4. I only want to be as good as I need to be for what I really want: Attention from simp traps.

5. I don't think I'm anxious.



I don't want to be a beggar. That's why I'm here. To learn what it is about men like Black Freckles and VISneakerBoy that get Internet famous porn stars to take interest in them, and then improve myself to emulate that example.

If I do this? Well, maybe those porn stars will fuck me. Maybe they won't. But they like me. Out of the thousands of men they could choose from, they chose me, and maybe like a hundred other dudes. Out of many several thousand. It feels good to be part of that kind of social circle. Yeah, that's it. I want a social circle of famous Internet porn stars and the people who associate with them.

Ok, now I'm convinced you are a troll.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Ok, now I'm convinced you are a troll.

What do you want from me? I said I'm willing to learn to walk before I run. Or would you have me give up on running and live with walking for the rest of my life? I'm sorry I don't see the appeal in walking.

 

[ulrich]

If I do this? Well, maybe those porn stars will fuck me. Maybe they won't. But they like me. Out of the thousands of men they could choose from, they chose me, and maybe like a hundred other dudes. Out of many several thousand. It feels good to be part of that kind of social circle. Yeah, that's it. I want a social circle of famous Internet porn stars and the people who associate with them.

If you think that “friends in the internet” is something akin to be part of an exclusive social circle, you’re gonna have a bad time.

Don’t you think it would make more sense to try meet these women in the flesh?
I mean, at the very least you could go to a pornstar expo or something… that has a much higher probability of ending up on anything than breaking your head trying to deduce how to have pornstars follow you.

 

[FrothySolutions]

If you think that “friends in the internet” is something akin to be part of an exclusive social circle, you’re gonna have a bad time.

Don’t you think it would make more sense to try meet these women in the flesh?
I mean, at the very least you could go to a pornstar expo or something… that has a much higher probability of ending up on anything than breaking your head trying to deduce how to have pornstars follow you.

If I'm one of the rare 1% of people they choose to follow on the Internet? I absolutely believe meeting in person is possible.

And going to the AVN Expo is like going to a strip club. I'm there as any other nobody. And yeah sure, maybe "game" will get me in her pants. Maybe one day the last few porn stars that aren't on OnlyFans will do a tour and stop at my local panties bar and I'll seduce those porn stars. Strange that no one's got any field reports like that if that's what game can do, but maybe I haven't read enough field reports.

But I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in her picking me out. The same way these other guys are getting picked out. Or you know what? Just show me some mentor I can follow who IS friends with porn stars. I'm won't be picky about the method if you can show me someone who's got porn stars following them on social media.

 

[Will_V]

1. See, cognitive behavioral therapy is basically training yourself to feel differently about stuff. For instance, if I neglected my health because I have some deep resentment of myself or something about myself. CBT is basically "Stop hating yourself, we're gonna work on reaffirming that you are good, and not to be hated." And that's great if you've got a problem with self-neglect. Because that is an "incorrect thought." But I feel like my thoughts are correct. To change them is to train myself to enjoy the taste of a shit sandwich.

2. I'm not looking to seduce "cute randoms." Or even "very sexy randoms." I'm only pursuing that because SkilledSeducer.com tells me it's a necessary step to getting what I actually want, which is attention from famous Internet sluts. There are men who do it, if I could somehow hit on whatever it is that earned them that appreciation...

3. Do I have to give up on my dream of getting followed on the Internet by porn stars and fitness models? Because right now in this moment, that's my greatest desire. That, and maybe sleep. If we're talking about basest, simplest, most instinctual and immediate desires. Right this second it is late and I want to go to sleep. Sleep and Internet sluts, that's all I want.

4. I only want to be as good as I need to be for what I really want: Attention from simp traps.

5. I don't think I'm anxious.



I don't want to be a beggar. That's why I'm here. To learn what it is about men like Black Freckles and VISneakerBoy that get Internet famous porn stars to take interest in them, and then improve myself to emulate that example.

If I do this? Well, maybe those porn stars will fuck me. Maybe they won't. But they like me. Out of the thousands of men they could choose from, they chose me, and maybe like a hundred other dudes. Out of many several thousand. It feels good to be part of that kind of social circle. Yeah, that's it. I want a social circle of famous Internet porn stars and the people who associate with them.

Dude there is no recipe for attracting porn stars as an average guy. Forget about it, it's a non-reality. Until you know for a fact why these women followed these guys, assume it's because they are her biggest customers, and begged her to accept $20,000 just to follow them on instagram to fill some needy addiction they've got, and because she'd just spend all her Gucci money she relented.

Go and re-read Chase's excellent post. The fact of the matter is that right now you can't lay any woman to save your life. Accept that right now, your game is so poor, your fundamentals are so poor, your mindset is so poor, your beliefs are so poor, your perspective of women is so poor, that not one of the hundreds of thousands of women you've walked past in your life have gone to bed with you. No porn star or instagram model is going to leap in from some internet portal and fix this for you.

Get rid of this notion about going straight for the top. It is so much of a limiting belief that it is literally holding you hostage. It has to go, it has to be overruled, minimized, replaced and forgotten. What you need now is intimacy, touch, sex, and to regain your real and actual appreciation for real and actual women and the real and actual wonderful effects they have on a man's life. That is the only way to fill the void, everything else is a lie.

Get off the internet, stop perusing porn stars instagrams and developing this needy, frantic addiction to them and their status. Your world lies outside your door, where real women are ready to meet you halfway as you improve to become the ideal version of yourself. Focus on that, talk to them, approach them, don't worry about rejections (everyone here's been rejected hundreds of times) and live your actual life, outside of your head and all the desperate thoughts swirling around inside.

Otherwise you will be trapped there forever, going from your bed to the internet, feeling worse and more miserable each day. It is a mental coffin, a place where actual potential is eroded, when just outside, in the real world, exist all the ingredients to turn this potential into a positive reality. Do whatever you need to do to make that mental switch - the first step being to accept that this is the reality you find yourself in.

 

[Gaturro]

I spoke to a guy who decided to lose his V-card this way, he regretted it.

i lost my v card this way when i was 16, and all the girls i fucked after that were 100% better looking than the one i paid for (practically nobody knows i did it).. and even after losing my v-card it didn’t change anything, i still had performance anxiety with the first 3 girls i properly “seduced”

But the thing about that is, at that point she wouldn't be chasing me. I would be chasing her. If I'm focusing on approaching.

But the online game, simply having a nice looking profile is one thing, but how do I attract the right women? The Internet sluts I'm so captivated by? Maybe I could be good at drawing. Become a popular fantasy artist. But I might instead attract a bunch of nerds. And I'm not interested in nerds.



Not formally, but it's one of those things. Like "low testosterone." It has such a subjective standard, some doctors will say "No, you're fine," others will say "Yeah, you've got it."

dude i have thousands of followers on instagram, even more on youtube, and i still need to approach, the hottest girls i laid i met them OUTSIDE instagram. this doesn’t mean i don’t use instagram to find girls (it’s my primary source of girls when i have too much work to actually go out, and i’ve slept with girls like the ones you mentioned texting them on instagram) but from 6s to above they just won’t approach you, and if they do they will probably approach 100 guys as well who are most likely better options than you are.

still, i believe this guy’s a troll. i think guys like him they should get banned unless they’re paying for a subscription to the website or at least post a journal. and if their journal is made up, well, at least it’ll be fun to read haha

 

[FrothySolutions]

Dude there is no recipe for attracting porn stars as an average guy. Forget about it, it's a non-reality. Until you know for a fact why these women followed these guys, assume it's because they are her biggest customers, and begged her to accept $20,000 just to follow them on instagram to fill some needy addiction they've got, and because she'd just spend all her Gucci money she relented.

Go and re-read Chase's excellent post. The fact of the matter is that right now you can't lay any woman to save your life. Accept that right now, your game is so poor, your fundamentals are so poor, your mindset is so poor, your beliefs are so poor, your perspective of women is so poor, that not one of the hundreds of thousands of women you've walked past in your life have gone to bed with you. No porn star or instagram model is going to leap in from some internet portal and fix this for you.

Get rid of this notion about going straight for the top. It is so much of a limiting belief that it is literally holding you hostage. It has to go, it has to be overruled, minimized, replaced and forgotten. What you need now is intimacy, touch, sex, and to regain your real and actual appreciation for real and actual women and the real and actual wonderful effects they have on a man's life. That is the only way to fill the void, everything else is a lie.

Get off the internet, stop perusing porn stars instagrams and developing this needy, frantic addiction to them and their status. Your world lies outside your door, where real women are ready to meet you halfway as you improve to become the ideal version of yourself. Focus on that, talk to them, approach them, don't worry about rejections (everyone here's been rejected hundreds of times) and live your actual life, outside of your head and all the desperate thoughts swirling around inside.

Otherwise you will be trapped there forever, going from your bed to the internet, feeling worse and more miserable each day. It is a mental coffin, a place where actual potential is eroded, when just outside, in the real world, exist all the ingredients to turn this potential into a positive reality. Do whatever you need to do to make that mental switch - the first step being to accept that this is the reality you find yourself in.

Sigh... I don't have any notions of "going straight for the top." I specifically said I'll sharpen my game! I'll fuck whatever unfuckable slags you say I have to fuck! I'll go through any and all steps I have to if it'll lead to what I actually want. I'm not looking to "skip" anything.

i lost my v card this way when i was 16, and all the girls i fucked after that were 100% better looking than the one i paid for (practically nobody knows i did it).. and even after losing my v-card it didn’t change anything, i still had performance anxiety with the first 3 girls i properly “seduced”

dude i have 400k followers on instagram, almost 6 million on youtube, and i still need to approach, the hottest girls i laid i met them OUTSIDE instagram. this doesn’t mean i don’t use instagram to find girls (it’s my primary source of girls when i have too much work to actually go out, and i’ve slept with girls like the ones you mentioned texting them on instagram) but from 6s to above they just won’t approach you, and if they do they will probably approach 100 guys as well who are most likely better options than you are.

still, i believe this guy’s a troll. i think guys like him they should get banned unless they’re paying for a subscription to the website or at least post a journal. and if their journal is made up, well, at least it’ll be fun to read haha

This is exactly why I'm concerned about getting shitty advice. Simply having a good profile or being popular on the Internet won't necessarily get me what I want. What I need is to be popular with the RIGHT people. For some reason among all 6 million people in your audience, none of them is a porn star or fitness model. No one's sliding into your DMs like "Hey I'm famous and important like you are, let's be friends." This is why I don't think I should haul off and, like, become a famous cartoon drawist.

And again, I never said I was against approaching, just that some men don't have to. But you say you've slept with girls "like" the ones I mentioned? So are they famous on Instagram or something?

 

[Rakehell]

@FrothySolutions

Buddy. What you’re trying to accomplish is a fools errand, online attention will not fill the void of you apparently missing out on your twenties and thirties; Moreover the guys you think that are getting free pussy from these girls online probably aren’t.

Lets say for a second you were somehow able to get these followers or whatever. You’ll have a bunch of porn stars following you with no real life experience to get them to meet, or to seduce them on the meet. It’d be wasted attraction.

 

[Dylweed]

This is some deep shit, and i'm no guru, but maybe this will help?

Stop being so negative. You only have 1 life, so might as well enjoy it right? While you still can? I honestly don't think anything will make up for everything you've missed out on. Nothing can and nothing will. But at this point you just gotta accept that.

So that leaves you with 2 options.

#1 go on living with no sex and continue feeling sad about everything you've missed out on

#2 go have sex with the best woman you can get. Stop having such stupid high standards. Dude you're a 49 year old virgin. You're not exactly gonna be able to get with 25 year old models. So just get the best you can and enjoy life the most that you can for the remainder of time you have left on this earth. Even if you "feel nothing" for the girl or "feel no interest" in them, just go for it and force it anyways. Maybe you'll really like it. You probably will. And if not, well at least you know. And you can finally stop identifying as a virgin

 

[FrothySolutions]

@FrothySolutions

Buddy. What you’re trying to accomplish is a fools errand, online attention will not fill the void of you apparently missing out on your twenties and thirties; Moreover the guys you think that are getting free pussy from these girls online probably aren’t.

Maybe they aren't. But these porn stars see something in these men. These porn stars are like "I want to be in this guy's audience." That alone is cool enough that I want it for myself.

And I think it would fill the void. It only follows that if I was a nobody in my twenties, in the social environment that people in their twenties find themselves in, I should try to be a "somebody." I should try and make up for all the "nobody time" I endured.

This is some deep shit, and i'm no guru, but maybe this will help?

Stop being so negative. You only have 1 life, so might as well enjoy it right? While you still can? I honestly don't think anything will make up for everything you've missed out on. Nothing can and nothing will. But at this point you just gotta accept that.

So that leaves you with 2 options.

#1 go on living with no sex and continue feeling sad about everything you've missed out on

#2 go have sex with the best woman you can get. Stop having such stupid high standards. Dude you're a 49 year old virgin. You're not exactly gonna be able to get with 25 year old models. So just get the best you can and enjoy life the most that you can for the remainder of time you have left on this earth. Even if you "feel nothing" for the girl or "feel no interest" in them, just go for it and force it anyways. Maybe you'll really like it. You probably will. And if not, well at least you know. And you can finally stop identifying as a virgin

I'm pretty sure the intrigue of famous somebodies would sate me. The question is, how is that done? And can I achieve it? Good questions I think. I came here because I thought Skilled Seducers could answer that for me.

And I appreciate your concern for this "burden" of virginity I'm saddled with, but to lose my virginity on sex I don't wanna have? I don't think it's the answer. But I thank you for your concern.

 

[FrothySolutions]

@FrothySolutions


Lets say for a second you were somehow able to get these followers or whatever. You’ll have a bunch of porn stars following you with no real life experience to get them to meet, or to seduce them on the meet. It’d be wasted attraction.

Hold on, I just noticed you added this edit.

God damn it, how many ways must I spell it? Yes, I will learn seduction, I will learn game, I will fuck my way through a trough of pigs if you say I have to. I never said I would forgo seduction education.

 

[Rakehell]

Maybe they aren't. But these porn stars see something in these men. These porn stars are like "I want to be in this guy's audience." That alone is cool enough that I want it for myself.

And I think it would fill the void. It only follows that if I was a nobody in my twenties, in the social environment that people in their twenties find themselves in, I should try to be a "somebody." I should try and make up for all the "nobody time" I endured.

I see, well I won’t judge you then. But I must say this probably isn’t the place to learn something like that. You have a very distinct set of values that i’ve never really seen before. I doubt anyone has the reference to give you the advice of what you’re looking for here.

This is definitely the place to get your virginity handled, but I doubt anyone here deals with social media women in that regard. It’s not that we couldn’t or haven’t, just not in the form you’re trying to. Most here are focused on real life interactions.