I slowly give up on women

[TomInHo]

I didn’t use any coping mechanism hence my depression, frustration and the lack of confidence. I already said in the beginning only because I did something wrong you have to ghost me? And that nobody is perfect and may make mistakes sometimes. It’s fine but then let me know that you aren’t interested and don’t play games with me which is the case sometimes.

Women are passive. You should never expect a woman to tell you why she does something. Heck sometimes they don't even know why they do half the things they do.

It's best to detach from the situation and go..

Hmmm she did "Z", that's annoying. But what did I do to keep getting this reaction?

Ahh I see... I keep doing "F". What would happen if I started doing "W" instead. Lets try that for a while and see what happens

There is a reason why we refer to seduction as game. The longer you play it and understand the rules, the more fun you will start having

 

[DonJuan..]

Women are passive. You should never expect a woman to tell you why she does something. Heck sometimes they don't even know why they do half the things they do.

It's best to detach from the situation and go..

Hmmm she did "Z", that's annoying. But what did I do to keep getting this reaction?

Ahh I see... I keep doing "F". What would happen if I started doing "W" instead. Lets try that for a while and see what happens

There is a reason why we refer to seduction as game. The longer you play it and understand the rules, the more fun you will start having

Bro that’s literally what I said the whole time reread what I have written lol. That’s how I proceed, but problem with that is sometimes you lose the confidence to know whether what you have done was right or wrong, because women have the tendency to gaslight men like that even if they aren’t doing it deliberately. But I agree it takes a men with much experience, I’m doing lot of mistakes but I also proceed a bit better. It’s a frustrating process.

 

[Skills]

Most of this is right unfortunately I don’t agree with the just be yourself angle.
You have to look at yourself, and you may have to improve yourself.
In fact you probably do.
Possibly quite substantially.
But you can do it.

good luck!

Brsh he was being satcastic, with the be yourself pussy guarantee, get it he was trolling

 

[TomInHo]

Bro that’s literally what I said the whole time reread what I have written lol. That’s how I proceed, but problem with that is sometimes you lose the confidence to know whether what you have done was right or wrong, because women have the tendency to gaslight men like that even if they aren’t doing it deliberately. But I agree it takes a men with much experience, I’m doing lot of mistakes but I also proceed a bit better. It’s a frustrating process.

Again.... You detach

It's a game. It's not real. Getting women does not define your self worth. It's just some fun activity you do

You use the results as feedback for your actions. It's very frustrating because in the beginning you make a lot of mistakes. But as time goes on you make less and less mistakes and also grow a track record of success

You just have to push through the pain and eventually things start to click all at once and you will make a huge leap in results

 

[DonJuan..]

Again.... You detach

It's a game. It's not real. Getting women does not define your self worth. It's just some fun activity you do

You use the results as feedback for your actions. It's very frustrating because in the beginning you make a lot of mistakes. But as time goes on you make less and less mistakes and also grow a track record of success

You just have to push through the pain and eventually things start to click all at once and you will make a huge leap in results

Hmm. It doesn’t make fun, it should be fun and I usually prioritise fun, but ghosting isn’t fun
Is there any WhatsApp group for this forum?

 

[DoWhatWorks]

@DonJuan.. you’ve received a lot of solid advice

My post here is very relevant to you: What complainers and incels have in common

Open your mind, take the upfront pain and be patient until you get the rewards at the other side

That same mindset you use for gym x6 days a week has to be applied to women / game.

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

 

[Skills]

@DonJuan.. you’ve received a lot of solid advice

My post here is very relevant to you: What complainers and incels have in common

Open your mind, take the upfront pain and be patient until you get the rewards at the other side

That same mindset you use for gym x6 days a week has to be applied to women / game.

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

^ another dude that gets laid a lot, see what i am saying donjuan

 

[Regal Tiger]

Going to assume that my earlier post got lost in the sauce, but the offer's still on the table for me to critique your pictures

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Yes dating apps, whether on Snapchat or tinder, I couldn’t game a single one not even fat girls even though I look like a Greek god and get compliments from many women for my look.

Well if you look like a Greek god and women constantly compliment your looks, then the problem HAS to be your game, no? What else could it be at that point?

I know the manosphere complains that women are impossible now but they also complain that "women are such whores these days"... those 2 viewpoints seem to contradict each other?

 

[DonJuan..]

Well if you look like a Greek god and women constantly compliment your looks, then the problem HAS to be your game, no? What else could it be at that point?

I know the manosphere complains that women are impossible now but they also complain that "women are such whores these days"... those 2 viewpoints seem to contradict each other?

Only that the problem is with texting over dating apps but not in reallife my friend. Women are way too delusional over dating apps, your game has to be perfect over text, one mistake and she is gone. That + over dating apps they can’t feel your presence. They think oh cool a muscular guy so sexy in the picture, but once you are in their presence they get wet

 

[ulrich]

Only that the problem is with texting over dating apps but not in reallife my friend. Women are way too delusional over dating apps, your game has to be perfect over text, one mistake and she is gone. That + over dating apps they can’t feel your presence. They think oh cool a muscular guy so sexy in the picture, but once you are in their presence they get wet

You, my friend, are trapped in the standards zone.

I'm Changing Messaging on the Whole Women's Standards Thing

More and more men are arguing women’s standards are over-inflated. Does it help to argue against that… or should we be aiding guys to sidestep those standards? Meta post here. Something's been bugging me for a few years now, feeling like this shift is occurring in the men's space and I'm not...

www.girlschase.com

Are Modern Women's Dating Standards TOO High?

Many men today believe women's standards are too high. The reality is, women's standards have ALWAYS been high… or at least, women have always claimed this. Again and again of late I've seen this argument that women's dating standards are simply too high. That women expect too much of men, they...

www.girlschase.com

 

[DonJuan..]

You, my friend, are trapped in the standards zone.

I'm Changing Messaging on the Whole Women's Standards Thing

More and more men are arguing women’s standards are over-inflated. Does it help to argue against that… or should we be aiding guys to sidestep those standards? Meta post here. Something's been bugging me for a few years now, feeling like this shift is occurring in the men's space and I'm not...

www.girlschase.com

Are Modern Women's Dating Standards TOO High?

Many men today believe women's standards are too high. The reality is, women's standards have ALWAYS been high… or at least, women have always claimed this. Again and again of late I've seen this argument that women's dating standards are simply too high. That women expect too much of men, they...

www.girlschase.com

Bro I’m referring to dating apps not the real world. In reallife I have no problem to pick women and sleep with them, but over DATING APPS they do have high standards sometimes, because thousand of People are messaging them there. If you message them on tinder they are less likely to respond, if you message them on instagram or Snapchat they are more likely to be receptive depending on their follower or Snapscore. Let’s say she has instagram with 100followers and is on tinder. It would be smarter to message her on instagram, because over tinder she will compare you with all the other thousand guys who are messaging her.

 

[TomInHo]

Only that the problem is with texting over dating apps but not in reallife my friend. Women are way too delusional over dating apps, your game has to be perfect over text, one mistake and she is gone. That + over dating apps they can’t feel your presence. They think oh cool a muscular guy so sexy in the picture, but once you are in their presence they get wet

You need perfect game for online?

You say you are muscular and women love you in person. That means you should be killing it online with minimal effort

Let's be real. That was not an amazing text exchange. But when it comes to online dating, if your pictures and profile are on point, a good amount of girls will ask you out or make it very easy for you.

You don't need incredible text game

 

[DonJuan..]

You, my friend, are trapped in the standards zone.

I'm Changing Messaging on the Whole Women's Standards Thing

More and more men are arguing women’s standards are over-inflated. Does it help to argue against that… or should we be aiding guys to sidestep those standards? Meta post here. Something's been bugging me for a few years now, feeling like this shift is occurring in the men's space and I'm not...

www.girlschase.com

Are Modern Women's Dating Standards TOO High?

Many men today believe women's standards are too high. The reality is, women's standards have ALWAYS been high… or at least, women have always claimed this. Again and again of late I've seen this argument that women's dating standards are simply too high. That women expect too much of men, they...

www.girlschase.com

Bro I’m referring to dating apps not the real world. In reallife I have no problem to pick women and sleep with them, but over DATING APPS they do have high standards sometimes, because thousand of People are messaging them there. If you message them on tinder they are less likely to respond, if you message them on instagram or Snapchat they are more likely to be receptive depending on their follower or Snapscore. Let’s say she has instagram with 100followers and is on tinder. It would be smarter to message her on instagram, because over tinder she will compare you with all the other thousand guys who are messaging her. It’s strategic

Perfect Game?

You say you are muscular and women love you in person. That means you should be killing it online with minimal effort

Let's be real. That was not an amazing text exchange. But when it comes to online dating, if your pictures and profile are on point, a good amount of girls will ask you out or make it very easy for you

the problem is online isn’t the same as reallife. In reallife I can see how she reacts, facial expressions how she feels and therefore calculate how to take things in a better way. But over text you don’t see those things, therefore chances to miscalibrate the things are higher, trust me here. I recently read girlschase book and all the strategies and tactics I’m using it naturally in reallife, because it works un reallife. Online you have to be much more careful with that

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

For the record I think this guy's trolling.

Women throwing themselves at him in real life but he's about to "give up on women" totally cause they aren't doing it on the apps?

Ok you rickrolled us, brother. Nicely done. Now on to other threads.

 

[DonJuan..]

For the record I think this guy's trolling.

Women throwing themselves at him in real life but he's about to "give up on women" totally cause they aren't doing it on the apps?

Ok you rickrolled us, brother. Nicely done. Now on to other threads.

You don’t understand psychology that’s the problem and the biggest mistake was to use those sick apps

 

[Regal Tiger]

You don’t understand psychology that’s the problem and the biggest mistake was to use those sick apps

Mhm... yup... totally right


But about that medal you promised me, is it in gold or...?

 

[Starboy]

You don’t understand psychology that’s the problem and the biggest mistake was to use those sick apps

This guy who's been involved in pickup for 15+ years, and banged hundreds of women in different parts of the globe doesn't actually know female psychology good point

 

[DonJuan..]

This guy who's been involved in pickup for 15+ years, and banged hundreds of women in different parts of the globe doesn't actually know female psychology good point

I’m not talking about female psychology, I’m talking about how the dating apps destroy your confidence. There is even a thread about this where men who are good with women in reallife but struggle on dating apps. Train for Example mentioned that anytime he uses dating apps it would affect his confidence negatively even though he is good with women, countless other as well. And I’m implying here the same, so what’s wrong?

 

[StrayDog]

Late to the convo here, but now I am curious. Does @Karea Ricardus D. Understand psychology or not? I'm looking for a good dream interpreter. I keep having this reoccurring dream where online dating actually counts for something. Its a nightmare actually cause in the dream I invest a lot of my self confidence in the whole thing but for some reason get few results. It makes me feel like shit. There is also something about a minatour and seven virginal maidens. I can't really remember the details though. Any way. I am always relieved to wake up from this horrible nightmare cause I am often laying next to some hottie I met during day/night game. Almost makes me forget the nightmare all together. I can't help but wonder though, what can this dream mean about me. Some Freudian shit? Dreams are weird