Lost the drive to approach and do game and I have no idea how to get it back.

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Most doctors do not know or understand hormones, is not something taught at school (my mom is a doctor btw and i show her my results and she was "that is good") ..... Be more specific in what were your numbers specially free t....

Again a good test of if you are good or not is a rock hard on first thing in the morning.... However you are 27 you should be good, but i am in a facebook group were there are a lot of 20 year old with horrible symptoms and testosterone levels which open my eyes...

That does not happen.....I think something might seriously be off here. Fuck.....

But then I have to point out that you reject advice from more or less everybody else also. This causes your progress to be at snail speed and is fairly annoying to people around you.

I do take advice from forum members I trust, yours just does not have much value to me. No offense.

 

[Carousel]

I do take advice from forum members I trust, yours just does not have much value to me. No offense.

Again, you are free to ignore me, that is perfectly fine.

However, the mere fact that you are starting more or less identical threads about race, age, high-end social circles and various other strange issues again and again for months, implicitly proves that you do not take much advice, even from the minority guys here in the US. If you did take advice, your worldview would progress in a positive direction, your limiting beliefs would subside and you would actually start working on that social circle instead of talking about it.

Until you show some signs of actually internalizing better mindsets and working on your high-end social circle, people should just stop feeding you.

 

[YS.]

Oh Pry I think you need to read some Tony Robbins or Stephen Covey dude.

I think you have much more macro problems.

I also think you are in a massive negative feedback loop and backwards rationalizing a lot of your problems.

You feel shitty. You don't wanna approach. Thus, your session becomes a nightmare for you. Then you feel even shittier. Then you start rationalizing why this might be. "Oh I know, bla bla bla."

You took up DG. It was nightmare for you. Then you rationalized it away with DG being weird etc.Then you took up nightgame again, which I've read your posts (love 'em) but most of your nights were really shitty and negative also. Now you're rationalizing or trying to find reasons to your emotions as oh I don't feel motivation, etc. I think you have a paradigm problem. You can't solve it by staying where you are.

Watch more fucking movies. Find friends. Have a happier life. Join some cool shit that you like. Read Tony Robbins and FUCKING ACT ON IT. Join a gym. Eat healthy. Meditate. Write a gratitude journal. Spend time finding alignment and purpose into your life. Do no-negativity challenges. Write out your goals. Go deep and decide what you want out of life. IMO, your problems are your emotions bro, nothing else. You stay in them or are stuck in them and trying to reason with them. It feels like you are just depressed and trying to rationalize it. When you feel bad the worst thing in the world is to identify with it and try to find reasons with it. You are much better just doing something fun and completely out-framing it. You'll be stuck in the loop if you don't break it.

Let me tell you, emotions aren't rational. AT ALL. It's crazy. But if I really feel shitty then DG feels weird. Now I can then try to reason with my retarded mind and try to find reasons why I feel this way, oh yeah DG is really weird, etc. Actually staying in that mental space.

But then I have a chat with a mate, I laugh like a motherfucker, feel good and then I feel I'm just making someone's day. You feel me?

Don't trust your brain so much. I think your problem might be just fucking feeling bad. And then never breaking your loops about it. But staying in them and trying to reason with them.

From everything you have written it really sounds like you are having some kind of depression. And all the little symptoms of it you dwell on are kind of irrelevant as the real problem is that.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Again, you are free to ignore me, that is perfectly fine.

However, the mere fact that you are starting more or less identical threads about race, age, high-end social circles and various other strange issues again and again for months, implicitly proves that you do not take much advice, even from the minority guys here in the US. If you did take advice, your worldview would progress in a positive direction, your limiting beliefs would subside and you would actually start working on that social circle instead of talking about it.

Until you show some signs of actually internalizing better mindsets and working on your high-end social circle, people should just stop feeding you.

Is it perfectly fine?

You see, I am going to take a jab at that. In my line of work, I am paid to act on intuition meaning not what is being said but to read the intention, kind of go with a gut feeling. To be frankly honest with you, I see no reason why I would want to take advice from you now or really ever. I think you come off as a very condescending and disrespectful kind of guy trying to stroke his own ego than give genuine advice. As for "feeding" me, well, I am glad that Chase and France fed me for the years I was struggling.

I could have easily been banned, let go, and forgotten but they took a chance on me, hence the success I have had due to this forum. Now I understand that you came from another forum where you were some respected authority but if you genuinely want me to take your advice, practice a bit of humility and make your intentions more pure.

Once again, no offense.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

@YS.

Now that is how ya give advice!

I know Chase had a really great post on depression that I need to read again but I think it is a mixture of a mental and physical problem but more of what @Skills was on and what you are on. I know I have some form of depression or testosterone problem right now.

I have also really taken up drinking in the past couple of years, like getting really drunk! I think that might be an issue.

 

[Skills]

@Skills[/USER] was on and what you are on. I know I have some form of depression or testosterone problem right now.

I have also really taken up drinking in the past couple of years, like getting really drunk! I think that might be an issue.

As i said, you need to find out your free t and total t, get those numbers.... Drinking will totally destroy your testosterone as well....

carousel is one of my favorite posters, i think you are looking at things the wrong way, he was trying to help you... The dude is brilliant!

when people give advise it could come across the wrong way, cause we are blunt, and you may not like it... But you need to understand a lot of your posts, come across a bit kj (the age ones for example and the money ones), and you keep repeating the same posts, when people take time to help you cause they are looking after you and want to see you improve... His point was to take action on what people tell you then come back, instead of rewording the same problems 300 different ways... There is no way sometimes to give advise without coming across a bit condescending that is in every type of forum sometimes...

 

[Carousel]

You see, I am going to take a jab at that. In my line of work, I am paid to act on intuition meaning not what is being said but to read the intention, kind of go with a gut feeling. To be frankly honest with you, I see no reason why I would want to take advice from you now or really ever. I think you come off as a very condescending and disrespectful kind of guy trying to stroke his own ego than give genuine advice. As for "feeding" me, well, I am glad that Chase and France fed me for the years I was struggling.

Respect is something that is earned, you are not entitled to it by default. And spending a lot of time complaining about stuff that other guys do not worry about will not earn you respect. That includes your hypothetical high-end social circle - only toxic people and codependents will hang out with complainers.

If you want to know more about the workings of respect in male hierarchies, read this excellent text: http://www.denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm

I could have easily been banned, let go, and forgotten but they took a chance on me, hence the success I have had due to this forum. Now I understand that you came from another forum where you were some respected authority but if you genuinely want me to take your advice, practice a bit of humility and make your intentions more pure.

You know, it has become totally apparent that you are not going to take advice from anyone, no matter whether the tone is respectful or not. So I am not trying to advise you at all. I am simply saying that other people should stop feeding you until you actually show signs of internalizing the advice. For example stop whining about race or age. This is partly for your own sake and partly so others shall not waste their time.

People should also take note about how defensive you get when I simply point out your exact three problems.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

@Carousel

I think you might have misunderstood what I said. People more important than you on this forum, the ones who built it into what it is well before you got here, took a chance on me and it paid off. So what I am actually trying to say is you have no right to tell others to deny me advice. I chat with these folks off of this forum, I bullshit with them as friends do, I have given some of them personal advice, and some of them have done the same for me.

So I get it, you probably came from some former forum and Chase gave you the rings to be mod, now you're on your high horse but before you drink too much of your Kool Aid, know the whole picture.

As for my own development, I have thousands of words of lay reports, approaches, and other things proving I take action.

People fall on rough times, you obviously have no understanding of this given how Scandinavian government tends to more than look out for its own. Hence my comment on past threads telling you that you don't have much advice to offer me.

Now I get it, I offended your massive unchecked ego a bit and now you're threatening the whole forum not to give me advice but frankly, we look out for each other here. We looked out for each other here even in our darkest of times before you got here and even if you decide to get petty and ban me, I will be keeping in touch with these people whether I am on the forum or not (some I have met in real life).

So please, you have earned NO respect from me. All you have shown to be is someone with a massive ego on his high horse acting entitled. Don't parade as "helping" me please, you're just trying to stroke your own ego. Now I have no other idea on where we go from here, ball is in your court. For the millionth time, I have no interest in receiving any advice from YOU.

 

[Velasco]

I get it, you probably came from some former forum and Chase gave you the rings to be mod

Carousel is a writer for GirlsChase. And has been for several years now, my guy....

 

[Starboy]

Most doctors do not know or understand hormones, is not something taught at school (my mom is a doctor btw and i show her my results and she was "that is good") ..... Be more specific in what were your numbers specially free t....

Again a good test of if you are good or not is a rock hard on first thing in the morning.... However you are 27 you should be good, but i am in a facebook group were there are a lot of 20 year old with horrible symptoms and testosterone levels which open my eyes...

So if you do get morning wood does that mean you have high levels of testosterone or is that just normal levels? Also if you do get morning wood does that mean you are less likely to suffer from erectile dysfunction?

 

[Carousel]

@Carousel
I think you might have misunderstood what I said. People more important than you on this forum, the ones who built it into what it is well before you got here, took a chance on me and it paid off. So what I am actually trying to say is you have no right to tell others to deny me advice. I chat with these folks off of this forum, I bullshit with them as friends do, I have given some of them personal advice, and some of them have done the same for me.

I generally advise people to not feed askhole behavior or people participating in "creative avoidance" of the core of their problems, like endless discussion without action. This has nothing to do with you personally, I have said so since the days of ASF Norway (2007-2012).

So I get it, you probably came from some former forum and Chase gave you the rings to be mod, now you're on your high horse but before you drink too much of your Kool Aid, know the whole picture.

As a matter of fact I was asked to be a mod because I have admin experience from ASF Norway and long forum experience in general. it is not something I derive much ego from - I am being the boss of a bunch of guys who mostly to some extent struggle to get laid, what is that to brag about?

As for my own development, I have thousands of words of lay reports, approaches, and other things proving I take action.

That may very well be the case.

However you still seem to take zero action on the racial beliefs, age beliefs and high end social circle fantasies, also you seem to have internalized exactly zero of what people told you about how hedonism usually is unsustainable. Again, this is demonstrated by the fact that you for 4 months when I have been here have complained about exactly the same things and gotten hundreds of replies.

People fall on rough times, you obviously have no understanding of this given how Scandinavian government tends to more than look out for its own. Hence my comment on past threads telling you that you don't have much advice to offer me.

What do governments have to do with the stuff you complain about?

Now I get it, I offended your massive unchecked ego a bit and now you're threatening the whole forum not to give me advice but frankly, we look out for each other here. We looked out for each other here even in our darkest of times before you got here and even if you decide to get petty and ban me, I will be keeping in touch with these people whether I am on the forum or not (some I have met in real life).

So please, you have earned NO respect from me. All you have shown to be is someone with a massive ego on his high horse acting entitled. Don't parade as "helping" me please, you're just trying to stroke your own ego. Now I have no other idea on where we go from here, ball is in your court. For the millionth time, I have no interest in receiving any advice from YOU.

I fail to see where I have made any threats. I have never asked for you to be banned nor would I moderate a thread where I am discussing.

Also you may want to observe your own glass house here when you talk about ego. It is you who are constantly being defensive when I simply point out that you have not been taking advice on 3-4 topics the last 4 months.

 

[Toby2030]

Really, don’t see this as an attack or anything. Learning to take advice is probably one of the most important skills to learn if you want to succeed in anything. You may not agree with other people’s opinions and advice, and that’s fine. Hence, it’s not normal to agree with everything. But you should still take it in, think about it, and then reject it if it won’t help you.

You remind me a bit of my roommate. She could ask me for advice, I would give it to her, and if it fucks with her view of reality and insecurities, I’m getting a bullet directly back in my head. What did that result in? I don’t give her advice, because I don’t want to waste my time. The same thing could happen to you if you continue pushing people away. You seem like a great guy, and I hope you don't shoot yourself in the foot.

People are not trying to hurt you, boost their own egos, or out “alpha” you. They seriously just want to help you. Other people’s answers might get harsher and harsher the more posts you post about the same thing if it seems like you aren’t moving forward, but in a lot of cases, that’s what people need. A kick in the ass to get moving and ACT.
Caring about ranks, you are not that or this won’t help you. Learning to take advice will.

 

[Skills]

So if you do get morning wood does that mean you have high levels of testosterone or is that just normal levels? Also if you do get morning wood does that mean you are less likely to suffer from erectile dysfunction?

it means that you are good were is suppose to be (optimal is to get tested but this is good sign along with not having a lot of the stuff in list i mentioned previously to o pry), vs low were you have the symptoms i mention in the list....

 

[Rain]

it means that you are good were is suppose to be (optimal is to get tested but this is good sign along with not having a lot of the stuff in list i mentioned previously to o pry), vs low were you have the symptoms i mention in the list....

What does "free testosterone" level show/indicate that "total testosterone" doesn't show?

 

[YS.]

@YS.

Now that is how ya give advice!

I know Chase had a really great post on depression that I need to read again but I think it is a mixture of a mental and physical problem but more of what @Skills was on and what you are on. I know I have some form of depression or testosterone problem right now.

I have also really taken up drinking in the past couple of years, like getting really drunk! I think that might be an issue.

I kind of agree with others that you need to execute on the advice. (It doesn't matter whether you executed on advice in the past. The time is now, champ.)

I think Speed of Implementation could be the single greatest indicator of success.

Do a 3+ point action plan for all the advice you got here and start executing on it. FAST. Because you had like 5-10 threads in the last month or so asking advice on similar problems and people are pouring their hearts and minds for you trying to help you. It's a little disheartening if you don't act on it and then come back and put up a similar thread a few days later.

I don't wanna call you out and get you defensive, because from my experience that usually makes people lock-in even more but I understand why some people would do that. It's out of love and frustration.

I hope you get my point brother!

Some actionable shit:

- Read some macro life self-help books and execute on everything. Again my faves are Tony Robbins and Stephen Covey.
- Go deep and do some self introspection. Write about your life, visions, desires and goals and why you would have them. (You would automatically do this if you read TR or SC. Start executing bro.
- Do 3 things this week that will better your life and happiness. (read: Do fun nourishing shit that you like.) Call up friends/family, watch some movies, take up a fun hobby, read a great book.
- Start meditating. I like the app Insight Timer but if you're a beginner Headspace is always a good starting point.
- Do a no-negativity challenge.
- Start writing a gratitude journal. 5 min journal is a cool start, it's like 20 bucks.
- Make it a point to call friends or family. If you don't have any, make it a point to try to find some. Reach out to people, have a plan of doing it.
- Join a gym / do home workouts. Disciplined and planned. At least 3x/week.
- Get your diet in order. My fav books are the Ultramind Solution, the Mood Cure and the 150 Best Foods on Earth.
- You can get your bloodwork/aminoasids in order. T level stuff I don't know much about but if your diet and lifestyle is off your T levels and AA levels will be off also. CAUTION, because this could become an excuse of your inner game issues. But something to look out for. I take a lot of supplements for stuff like it. You can read about this shit in the Mood Cure. Get vitamins and basic supplements.
- Get your sleep in order. A good book is Sleep by the physio of Man United and Real Madrid, forgot the guys name but you can Google it. 7 to 9 hrs. PITCH BLACK. (Get a mask.) No alcohol 3 hrs before. No caffeine 6-7 hrs before. Get some sunlight when waking up.

Most of all, start DOING shit. Any of these would help you.

Much luck and much love bro!

 

[DarkKnight]

@YS. Hey man interesting book list. Which of the books about the diet would you recommend as first. At the lifestyle sub-forum we have a post about books which we have read and recommend. I invite you to post some of your recommendations.

Books which we have read and recommend

Hi, I thought it was helpful to have a list of books that we have read and recommend. I have just finished up reading pre-suasion and Velasco also mentioned reading it in his post about the honesty frame. That book IS basically game and disects things like peacocking, preselection, investment...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

@Carousel

It's kinda ironic when you preach about being self-aware, I think you need to do significant self-reflection on your own rather than giving me advice. While other members here have offered genuine advice, some of which has prompted urgent action from me (getting more bloodwork done), all you have done is drink your own kool-aid, taken a condescending tone with me, and criticize someone who is having potential health struggles right now.

So for you to tell others who have done a far better job than you on this thread in giving me advice to not give advice is just you exercising an inflated ego far out of touch with reality.

I have told you countless times that your advice is falling on deaf ears, I mean specifically YOUR advice. I have made it clear that I have no intentions in taking advice from you and that you do not have my best interest in mind. What do you do? Drag out an argument to boost your own ego.

So please, practice what you preach and check yourself first.

As for @Mike Silvertree

I noticed you commented on a locked thread saying my posts suck, once again abusing power as a mod, this shit has got out of hand. You haven't even read all of my posts and the ways I have helped countless members on here but feel the need to talk shit, being safe-guarded by a mod badge.

You guys came from a dying forum and then talk down to members here who helped to make this forum into what it is. Check your inflated egos at the fucking door because quite frankly, you don't have any respect in my eyes like others who have actually earned it.

Most of all, both of you can learn more by reading posts by Chase. He never directly attacks anyone, he attacks their points.

I get that my criticism got taken out of hand but I have zero fucking remorse, do with that as you may. If this great forum which helped me turn my life around with game has to turn into a dictatorship where power hungry mods feel the need to talk down to those who have paid their dues, I am happy being kicked off as I keep in touch with a lot of these members off the forum.

Other than that, I do want to thank those that took the time to actually give good advice.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Keeping it relevant to the thread though, I think this could be it. I think the health factors are imbalances in what is in my body could be impacting my mindset and then my satisfaction towards life. This coronavirus shit is making it tough to see doctors though, especially when you live in the epicenter of it in the US.

Without a doubt, I know my issue is health right now and I need to get that on track. It's weird how even sex itself cannot fix that underlying issue. For those of you that genuinely do care, I will keep you all posted on more potential bloodwork results.

 

[Carousel]

@Carousel

It's kinda ironic when you preach about being self-aware, I think you need to do significant self-reflection on your own rather than giving me advice. While other members here have offered genuine advice, some of which has prompted urgent action from me (getting more bloodwork done), all you have done is drink your own kool-aid, taken a condescending tone with me, and criticize someone who is having potential health struggles right now.

So for you to tell others who have done a far better job than you on this thread in giving me advice to not give advice is just you exercising an inflated ego far out of touch with reality.

I have told you countless times that your advice is falling on deaf ears, I mean specifically YOUR advice. I have made it clear that I have no intentions in taking advice from you and that you do not have my best interest in mind. What do you do? Drag out an argument to boost your own ego.

Right now, thousands of people are dying daily from a virus pandemic. But you take the victim frame when you maybe suffer from a slight depression or testosterone drop because somebody told you to stop asking for advice that is not being applied? How masculine.

You know, for every response like this, it just becomes clearer to everybody that the LAST thing you want to do is to take a look at yourself. Much easier complain about all sorts of external things, in this case, the moderators have supposedly conspired against you.

So please, practice what you preach and check yourself first.

I practice what I preach.

I don't whine about age, despite I am 11 years older than you.
I don't whine about my background, despite not all chics I run into prefer a white STEM-educated guy who is not a super-extrovert.
I don't whine about status or complain about not having cool enough people around me.
I don't frame my limiting beliefs as universal truths.

You guys came from a dying forum and then talk down to members here who helped to make this forum into what it is. Check your inflated egos at the fucking door because quite frankly, you don't have any respect in my eyes like others who have actually earned it.

It was pointed out to you above by Velasco that I have actually also contributed to the knowledge base here. Get your facts right.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Once again, flew right over your head @Carousel and it really shows why some people are great at giving advice and some have no business in dong so. "Facts", stroking your own ego, and it's all about you. Notice how the people giving advice on this thread have kept it to the problems at hand.

I get it dude, you're a sheltered guy with an out of whack ego who is clearly more driven to prove himself than to really help anyone. To be honest with you, I am struggling in some aspects of life right now and prefer to talk to those who I admire and are intent on helping, not to have some mod throw a fit because his ego got wounded.

To me, you don't practice what you preach. This thread is proof of that. You lack the self-awareness of noticing that someone has no intentions of taking advice from you whether it is now or ever, yet you continue to drag this whole thing out into an argument.

Once again, I called it, you have an out of whack ego and lack self-awareness yourself. Please continue to argue to stroke it.