Date Plans Plausible deniability to go to HER place

[Skjöldr]

Hey guys.
Regarding this post something has confused me: https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...know-im-not-from-this-city.23034/#post-118858

Short story is this: I'm meeting a girl for a date on Saturday but since my logistics are shite because she lives in another city, the logistics revolve around her place and not mine. I wanna go for a first date lay, but here's my issue:

How do i covertly bounce us back to her place using plausible deniability?

Since i'm picking her up and walking her to the café my plan was to offer to walk her back to her place on a high note after a good amount of time spent together and on our walk back i would hit her with my line "I don't know about you, but i don't have any plans for the rest of the rest of the day. How about we go back to your place and watch a movie and hang out?" Maybe add something about showing her some pictures or music on my phone. Problem is this could sound a bit too overt. Or?

Let me know what you think.
Cheers

 

[Velasco]

How do i covertly bounce us back to her place using plausible deniability?

Tell her right when you pick her up, that you'll have to be cutting this date short because you've got to meet a friend in an hour (if you guys meet at 1PM then you've got to see him at 2PM). Then have a couple drinks. sexualize the conversation to build sexual tension. Then look at the time, "oh shit its about to be 2 lol. Come on let's get you home." On the way, ask to go up to take a piss real quick before you leave. Then when your inside, take a piss. come out, "ok bye I gotta go" kiss her on the lips. Then, stop and act like you realized something about her when you kissed her. And go back to kiss her again. more passionately this time. "omg your lips" kiss her again. grab her hair to expose her neck, and kiss her neck. "your skin" then keep escalating. Any, "wat about ur friend?"'s just "yeah I'll text him. it's fine" then keep going.

 

[Skills]

Ask to use the bathroom

 

[Skjöldr]

Good ideas with using the bathroom, i'll think about it. Will follow to see what others have to say.

 

[Tony D]

Most women know that if they're alone at your place, you'll want to at least make out. You don't need to be covert, or trick her in any way. Just say you have something to do, ie, eat, watch, read... whatever.

I usually start dates at my place so that they have a look inside. Make sure it's not a serial killer pad full of meathooks. It makes it a lot easier to bring them back later.

 

[Skjöldr]

Most women know that if they're alone at your place, you'll want to at least make out. You don't need to be covert, or trick her in any way. Just say you have something to do, ie, eat, watch, read... whatever.

I usually start dates at my place so that they have a look inside. Make sure it's not a serial killer pad full of meathooks. It makes it a lot easier to bring them back later.

Yeah i have my own place in another city, would be lovely to have the date here. Might invite her over to my city if stuff goes well on the date. Would you do anything different when it's her place and not your own? Any experience?

 

[Grand Pooba]

I usually start dates at my place so that they have a look inside. Make sure it's not a serial killer pad full of meathooks. It makes it a lot easier to bring them back later.

Interesting that you mentioned this; the times I've tried this, the girl usually declines the invite home after the date; maybe that's a reflection on the date itself; or I'll get extra hard LMR if she does come home that same evening. But, I've often noticed them decline the invite home even if they're having fun, and then we'll sleep together on the second or third date.

 

[Rakkum]

From searching up ice cream on girlschase i can't really see anywhere it is a no go haha. But you may have a point.

It's just a feeling I got. If you have very good vibe and set strong frames then you can get away with everything, of course

Got the line from here. How would you otherwise go about asking yourself back to her place? Good point about the ice cream. Idk about going back to her place to cook. The date's during the day.

Okay, good point. Take Chase's advice Or is there is something else that you would enjoy doing at her place, then go for that. You can creative here if you wish. As to cooking, can be done any time

Got me thinking what's the difference between being covert and giving her plausible deniability. One thing to note, how much plausible deniability she needs, depends on where the two of you are. If she feels comfortable with you, is aroused and wants to fuck you right now, then you need only the bare minimum. If she still needs more warming up or needs to feel connected-comfortable with you, then you need to give more plausible deniability.

 

[Rakkum]

Then look at the time, "oh shit its about to be 2 lol. Come on let's get you home." On the way, ask to go up to take a piss real quick before you leave. Then when your inside, take a piss. come out, "ok bye I gotta go" kiss her on the lips. Then, stop and act like you realized something about her when you kissed her. And go back to kiss her again. more passionately this time. "omg your lips" kiss her again. grab her hair to expose her neck, and kiss her neck. "your skin" then keep escalating. Any, "wat about ur friend?"'s just "yeah I'll text him. it's fine" then keep going.

Stealing this!

EDIT: A chick pulled this on me yesterday haha. Had a Zoom-meeting at ten o'clock.. When it was 21:45, we were drinking wine and chilling at my place, it turned out it was the next time zone. As we got busy, she kind of forgot about the meeting altogether hahah

 

[Tony D]

Yeah i have my own place in another city, would be lovely to have the date here. Might invite her over to my city if stuff goes well on the date. Would you do anything different when it's her place and not your own? Any experience?

I just show a lot of interest in seeing her place. I ask her about it. "What's your place like? Is it amazing? Do you have food?" I get her to talk about it and say "I want to see it."

If you show interest in something, like her furniture, artwork, cooking, pets, it gives her a good reason to invite you over.

 

[Tony D]

I'll also add, I always use a little push-pull. Interested but skeptical.

Interested + Skeptical

"You have a dog? Oh man, I love dogs. Invite me over to play with her!"
"Okay."
"Wait... this isn't a trick to lock me up and steal my kidney is it? If it is, then forget it. I'm never coming over."
"Lol, no!"
"Okay good. After last time I said... never again. Because, I don't have enough Kidney."

 

[Skills]

Please Keep it simple stupid. Do body language like you have to pee, let me use the bathroom I need to pee, done. I done it a million times. Then you have a nice house give me a tour and notice stuff and ask questions the tour ends in the bedroom

P.s. in the bathroom wash your dick really good for the bj

 

[Skjöldr]

I'll try what Tony suggests and if it doesn't work out i'll just approach some more women and get more dates and try what Skills suggests. If she wanna fuck she probably doesn't care whether i ask to see her apartment or ask to use the bathroom. She'll take it. Could probably do both. Ask to use the bathroom and then ask for a tour.

 

[Glow]

I'll try what Tony suggests and if it doesn't work out i'll just approach some more women and get more dates and try what Skills suggests. If she wanna fuck she probably doesn't care whether i ask to see her apartment or ask to use the bathroom. She'll take it. Could probably do both. Ask to use the bathroom and then ask for a tour.

Dont be dependent on what she "wants",
she might put out a seed for what she wants
but moving forward you wanna influence her and draw her into other ideas and states that makes her forget her original idea
aka
make her wanna fuck you - you have a whole date.
dont leave it up to her.

When you get good you dont have to use plausible deniability. You can if theres not time to get her seduced, or if its tough. But its a secondary option. that said its good to understand what happens around "the tech".

A well placed soi + a barrier - using the place as a barrier will make her get the idea of moving to somewhere more private if shes in the right state.
So you wanna get her there first for this to work.

Im not explaining things here - just hinting the right mindset for you to set direction for your learning. aka go into this date with your good plans. just consider this thinking for future dates.. think about the influence you can make, understand that she needs to feel involved, activate her in the seduction by eg containing and being tempting..

read this and let it simmer a lil with you.. understand the mindset.

 

[Skjöldr]

Dont be dependent on what she "wants",
she might put out a seed for what she wants
but moving forward you wanna influence her and draw her into other ideas and states that makes her forget her original idea
aka
make her wanna fuck you - you have a whole date.
dont leave it up to her.

When you get good you dont have to use plausible deniability. You can if theres not time to get her seduced, or if its tough. But its a secondary option. that said its good to understand what happens around "the tech".

A well placed soi + a barrier - using the place as a barrier will make her get the idea of moving to somewhere more private if shes in the right state.
So you wanna get her there first for this to work.

Im not explaining things here - just hinting the right mindset for you to set direction for your learning. aka go into this date with your good plans. just consider this thinking for future dates.. think about the influence you can make, understand that she needs to feel involved, activate her in the seduction by eg containing and being tempting..

read this and let it simmer a lil with you.. understand the mindset.

Good post. The SOI + barrier could work too. All cooks down to if she's interested or not. Could say something like "I really enjoy spending time with you. Normally i would invite you home for us to relax, but i live in another city". Either she picks up on it or not and if she picks up on it, accepts it or declines. If she's totally clueless i could say "How about your place?"

 

[Velasco]

I dont like the asking what shes got in her place because then it becomes a process of elimination ("oh you dont have pets? Do you paint? No?...hmm...cook?") Which hurts your frame.
This is why I much prefer universals (in this case, EVERY girl has a bathroom). Which eliminates the need to worry about receiving a "no" or finding an excuse to head to head to her place. And gives you the freedom to focus on gaming ur girl

That being said

"I really enjoy spending time with you. Normally i would invite you home for us to relax, but i live in another city". Either she picks up on it or not and if she picks up on it, accepts it or declines. If she's totally clueless i could say "How about your place?"

I do like this approach

However, its likely she will ask you where you live (maybe even before this point, if shes really enjoying the date). in that case I would go with what DML adviced on your original thread:

When it comes to the scenario that you don't live in Copenhagen, I would probably say that you are visiting a friend and staying there for the week under corona. Don't tell her that you travelled 1,5 hours to visit her.

 

[Skjöldr]

I dont like the asking what shes got in her place because then it becomes a process of elimination ("oh you dont have pets? Do you paint? No?...hmm...cook?") Which hurts your frame.
This is why I much prefer universals (in this case, EVERY girl has a bathroom). Which eliminates the need to worry about receiving a "no" or finding an excuse to head to head to her place. And gives you the freedom to focus on gaming ur girl

That being said

I do like this approach

However, its likely she will ask you where you live (maybe even before this point, if shes really enjoying the date). in that case I would go with what DML adviced on your original thread:

Yeye of course she will know i'm not from town. I will just say where i'm from, but that i have alot of acquaintances around the country, so i'm sometimes in the capital. That also explains why i approached her there, just on my way to hang out with one of my mates when i saw her or something. Then talk about since she's from Sweden, have she ever stepped out of the capital and seen the rest of the country like where i'm from and talk about all the cool things to see and to experience and that she should come see it sometimes etc. go down that route. I think i'm pretty well covered, big thanks to all you guys' help as well. I'm a noob and i know the worst thing i can do is overthink it and that i should just go in with an open mind. Maybe something unexpected happens that makes me realize things i should have thought more about.

If she declines to take me home atleast i have seeded that i'm from somewhere else in the country and wants her to visit so i can show her around, which gives me a minor shot at a second date lay, if her resistance on the first was token.

 

[Skjöldr]

Alright date just ended. About 1.5 hours total. My focus on the date was practicing kino and assertiveness/leading (compliance). All the other things come natural to me i would say like good humor, role playing, teasing, threading, letting her do the talking and asking good questions. Took her my the waist whenever we turned and said "let's go here" "let's get out of here" "let's sit here" etc.

Apparently she was busy with work, we were walking towards here place by the same route i had planned and so i said "Yknow, i really like spending spending time with you and would have invited you home to relax and get some food if i didn't live in another city" and she said "I know it's too bad" and i said "you got work to do" and she said "yeah" and i said alright and then we talked a bit outside her entrance and went in to hug goodbye, i went for the kiss, she gave me the cheek thinking i would do the double cheek peck and i just said "Not good enough" and we kissed on the lips and she said we should schedule something together again and said see you. Time will tell how if i can pull her to my place, i did seed throughout the conversation like "oh you poor girl you never been outside the capital, you should come see the rest" and she said yeah yeah to it all. Also thanked me 2-3 times throughout the date that i took her out of her home for some fun since she's been stuck there alot.

We were talking about something and the age question fit perfectly into that so i asked her before she asked me and she asked "how old do you think i am?" And i said "26-27" and she giggled and tapped my arm and said she was actually 34. Then she asked me. "Well how old do you think i am?" and she said "hmmm idk i thought you were quite young maybe like 23, 24, 25 or 26?" And i said "well it's one of those but you can only pick one" and she said "24" and i said "bingo" and then i just acted like no big deal and she seemed chill about it. Her body is aaaaayyyyyymazing. She kept walking really fast and i kept grabbing her waist and put my hand on her shoulder and said playfully "slooww down " to her. This happened alot and was a great way to get kino in. When we sat down our legs touched most of the time and she kept bumping into my arm and hand with her ass and hips and hands which was pretty cute. Women do that kind of thing. I think i did pretty good, would love to see her again but i cant for 2 weeks, because im busy next weekend and so is she, so i'll schedule it for the weekend after the next one. In the meantime i'm gonna do some more daygame.

Actually chatted up the cutie next to me on the train but she seemed disinterested and also some other strangers on the streets, station and the train. Awesome stuff. Cheers.

 

[Skjöldr]

You can force a decision but not an outcome. im quite content, did my best and was totally chilled out throughout. Gonna invite her to my place for some weekend sightseeing. When do the Don Juans think i should text her? Later today? Tomorrow? Monday?
Cheers

 

[Zoro]

Sounds like you got a good date vibe down. And you're handling some questions that a lot of guys don't deal with so well.

"No plan survives contact with the femininity. - Sum One, 1969,"

I wouldn't sweat it about not closing at the end of the date, seems like you did what you could and she wants to see you again.

she gave me the cheek thinking i would do the double cheek peck and i just said "Not good enough" and we kissed on the lips

Smooth. Stealing it.