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This is a direct segway to this thread by @DoWhatWorks , who got closed by @Chase :
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Those are things I noticed about myself once I got over that threshold (mainly over 40).
Mind you I started late at seduction (at 32), so my views may not be aligned with yours, especially if you are under 30.
That's perfectly fine.
1) First of all, what will change in yourself after 40?
1a) Physically, if you are active:
- less overall energy
What that means is that you will have to heavily prioritize your activities, learn to say no to a lot of things, and put sleeping above everything else.
Yes, you can stay out late....but it must be planned ahead. You will need a rest day afterwards. Every time I go out to dance, I make sure I have no appointments of any kind the morning after, so I can sleep more and relax my head.
- more recovery time
This is directly linked to the above. Your recovery time will go up one or two notches. Sleep, diet habits and not smoking or drinking too much make a huge difference here! And that goes double if you lift regularly (3-5 days a week). Your body will punish you harder and harder every time you move away from a healthy routine.
- injuries
You will get injured...period. So learn how to work around those. Our bodies were not made to go over 35, so every year after that is already extra time. Just accept that reality and proceed accordingly.
- attractiveness
The best phase for a man, by far. As long as you take good care of yourself, and strive to look like this, and not like this, you will be fine. There's something intangible in men that age that makes women go nuts! If you keep your looks decent, and don't let yourself go, you are in for a treat. All their age ranges will want you, from 18 all the way up to mid 50s. It's fun.
- to dye or go gray?
I dye my beard. It's the only thing, along with my eyebrows, that is going gray. So I paint those. If you are going after younger women (<28), staying gray will probably make your pool smaller. Today it's easy to dye your shit at home using a simple gel. Takes about 25-30 minutes, and you must do it every fifteen days or so (or after you trim your hair/beard). Not that hard. I only recommend going to a salon for your first time, to get the color right.
- muscles
I'm a fairly muscular guy. Currently I'm 207 lbs (94kg) for a height of 6'1" (1,86m). I'm super lean now, but still muscular. This is more than enough for me....even so, it's still a little bit over what some women would consider ok (some women prefer slender dudes). There was a time when I wanted to be huge, and went above the 220s. It made absolutely no difference in my results with the opposite sex. Women like some muscle, and some definition. Being a giant gorilla, or the eight pack king, will only get you more attention from other men. Also remember: being too big or too ripped is taxing on your body! As you get older, your joints, ligaments and digestive tract are not the same. They age too! So putting unnecessary stress on those things will only make your health worse long term.
- cumulative effect from younger years
You will pay the price - or reap the benefits - of what you did in your 20s and early 30s.
I used to be a heavy drinker in my 20s. When I was 35-36, I got diagnosed with a fat liver - mainly because of that abuse in my younger time.
Mind you I stopped drinking at 28! So it took my body eight years to show the effects of that abuse.
If you wanna become a hero at your 40s (and beyond), then start early to take care of yourself.
1b) Mentally, if you are active:
- mental focus
You will be sharper than ever...but only if you stay engaged with what you are doing. This is the prime time to go after what you really want, be it women, money, biz, travels, etc. Also your ability to avoid wasting time with other people's bullshit will be at its peak!
- resilience
I'm amazed at how much crap I can take now without being phazed. I just don't give a shit anymore about things that I don't consider important. Sadly, this only comes with time, and from being under pressure over and over again. Pressure makes diamonds, although nobody can teach you that.
- live game
As long as you stay in the range I showed in the attractiveness section, your presence will be felt. Honestly, you won't care much about fuck-ups the same way you did when you were younger...you will just shrug and learn from them. I am amazed at how sharp I am now with new women when I meet them for the first time. And I have to say less and less stuff to make them interested. What I see is that, as you get older, you are able to trim the fat, and only leave in your plate what really works.
- text game
Becomes easier, but only if you keep practicing. Young women will behave differently on IMs if they know you are over 40. Still can't put my finger on why this happens, but I feel a difference. They will be more receptive to dates too - as long as you can prove you are a safe guy.
That's it for now gents.
Comments are more than welcome.
(In part two I will discuss the social aspects of being an over 40 seducer)
Getting girls as you get older
I'm late 20's and the bulk of my lays have been from online, clubbing and a substantial amount of day game (cold approach) Can feel the change in myself where none of the above particularly interest me as much as they used to. For (30+) guys here how did you transition to still sleep with...

Those are things I noticed about myself once I got over that threshold (mainly over 40).
Mind you I started late at seduction (at 32), so my views may not be aligned with yours, especially if you are under 30.
That's perfectly fine.
1) First of all, what will change in yourself after 40?
1a) Physically, if you are active:
- less overall energy
What that means is that you will have to heavily prioritize your activities, learn to say no to a lot of things, and put sleeping above everything else.
Yes, you can stay out late....but it must be planned ahead. You will need a rest day afterwards. Every time I go out to dance, I make sure I have no appointments of any kind the morning after, so I can sleep more and relax my head.
- more recovery time
This is directly linked to the above. Your recovery time will go up one or two notches. Sleep, diet habits and not smoking or drinking too much make a huge difference here! And that goes double if you lift regularly (3-5 days a week). Your body will punish you harder and harder every time you move away from a healthy routine.
- injuries
You will get injured...period. So learn how to work around those. Our bodies were not made to go over 35, so every year after that is already extra time. Just accept that reality and proceed accordingly.
- attractiveness
The best phase for a man, by far. As long as you take good care of yourself, and strive to look like this, and not like this, you will be fine. There's something intangible in men that age that makes women go nuts! If you keep your looks decent, and don't let yourself go, you are in for a treat. All their age ranges will want you, from 18 all the way up to mid 50s. It's fun.
- to dye or go gray?
I dye my beard. It's the only thing, along with my eyebrows, that is going gray. So I paint those. If you are going after younger women (<28), staying gray will probably make your pool smaller. Today it's easy to dye your shit at home using a simple gel. Takes about 25-30 minutes, and you must do it every fifteen days or so (or after you trim your hair/beard). Not that hard. I only recommend going to a salon for your first time, to get the color right.
- muscles
I'm a fairly muscular guy. Currently I'm 207 lbs (94kg) for a height of 6'1" (1,86m). I'm super lean now, but still muscular. This is more than enough for me....even so, it's still a little bit over what some women would consider ok (some women prefer slender dudes). There was a time when I wanted to be huge, and went above the 220s. It made absolutely no difference in my results with the opposite sex. Women like some muscle, and some definition. Being a giant gorilla, or the eight pack king, will only get you more attention from other men. Also remember: being too big or too ripped is taxing on your body! As you get older, your joints, ligaments and digestive tract are not the same. They age too! So putting unnecessary stress on those things will only make your health worse long term.
- cumulative effect from younger years
You will pay the price - or reap the benefits - of what you did in your 20s and early 30s.
I used to be a heavy drinker in my 20s. When I was 35-36, I got diagnosed with a fat liver - mainly because of that abuse in my younger time.
Mind you I stopped drinking at 28! So it took my body eight years to show the effects of that abuse.
If you wanna become a hero at your 40s (and beyond), then start early to take care of yourself.
1b) Mentally, if you are active:
- mental focus
You will be sharper than ever...but only if you stay engaged with what you are doing. This is the prime time to go after what you really want, be it women, money, biz, travels, etc. Also your ability to avoid wasting time with other people's bullshit will be at its peak!
- resilience
I'm amazed at how much crap I can take now without being phazed. I just don't give a shit anymore about things that I don't consider important. Sadly, this only comes with time, and from being under pressure over and over again. Pressure makes diamonds, although nobody can teach you that.
- live game
As long as you stay in the range I showed in the attractiveness section, your presence will be felt. Honestly, you won't care much about fuck-ups the same way you did when you were younger...you will just shrug and learn from them. I am amazed at how sharp I am now with new women when I meet them for the first time. And I have to say less and less stuff to make them interested. What I see is that, as you get older, you are able to trim the fat, and only leave in your plate what really works.
- text game
Becomes easier, but only if you keep practicing. Young women will behave differently on IMs if they know you are over 40. Still can't put my finger on why this happens, but I feel a difference. They will be more receptive to dates too - as long as you can prove you are a safe guy.
That's it for now gents.
Comments are more than welcome.
(In part two I will discuss the social aspects of being an over 40 seducer)
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