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Went out with @Lobo today. Good stuff having a wing. Able to give each other some constructive criticism and keep social momentum over the evening.
I was wearing a blue floral dress shirt on dark blue jeans. I felt very relaxed, though I do tense up slightly initially on the approach. Almost instinctively, which shows there's still some deeper down trauma to process.
#1 Married girl
I sit next to this girl, but after I start talking, I notice she has two rings on, both looking brand new. But I figure it'll be good practice, so I work on persisting the conversation even though she isn't initially interested. I have specifically had issues with not persisting, which causes approaches to fizzle out before I have the opportunity to hook. So this time I worked past that, using the golden question, and then pacing the reality after she said she writes memoirs. Gave good adjectives and descriptions, and she started to open up.
I eventually let the conversation die as she was married, and she wasn't giving too much back to me.
#2
Open this moving girl who is super attractive.
Open with "Do you know who you look exactly like?"
She semi-stops, and asks who I think she looks like. As I try to tease this further, she just leaves and says bye.
Happens.
#3
Open this two set with Lobo, asking for directions somewhere, and then slowly transitioning the vibe to more conversational. Lobo does a good move and has us move off the street, hooking us in. Unfortunately, we didn't communicate who was going for which girl, causing us both to go for the same girl, and trying to on the fly figure out who is going for who.
We walk with them, and talk, but it's a little difficult to focus on SOTs and transitioning to good topics when having a conversation between 4 people. Something to work on more and figure out. I think stationary two sets are definitely better, but a moving two set that could be transitioned into an instant double date.
#4
Open another two set asking for directions. We try isolating a little better, but something turns the girl I'm talking to off and she pivots, taking her friend with her. I'm not sure what it was exactly. I think the pace of my voice was too fast/nervous. I need to focus on bringing pace... slower... more thoughtful... and more deliberate... so that it hooks... and draws my people in.
Main Lessons
Possible two-set opener variation of the "Do you know who you look like" courtesy of Lofty
I was wearing a blue floral dress shirt on dark blue jeans. I felt very relaxed, though I do tense up slightly initially on the approach. Almost instinctively, which shows there's still some deeper down trauma to process.
#1 Married girl
I sit next to this girl, but after I start talking, I notice she has two rings on, both looking brand new. But I figure it'll be good practice, so I work on persisting the conversation even though she isn't initially interested. I have specifically had issues with not persisting, which causes approaches to fizzle out before I have the opportunity to hook. So this time I worked past that, using the golden question, and then pacing the reality after she said she writes memoirs. Gave good adjectives and descriptions, and she started to open up.
I eventually let the conversation die as she was married, and she wasn't giving too much back to me.
#2
Open this moving girl who is super attractive.
Open with "Do you know who you look exactly like?"
She semi-stops, and asks who I think she looks like. As I try to tease this further, she just leaves and says bye.
Happens.
#3
Open this two set with Lobo, asking for directions somewhere, and then slowly transitioning the vibe to more conversational. Lobo does a good move and has us move off the street, hooking us in. Unfortunately, we didn't communicate who was going for which girl, causing us both to go for the same girl, and trying to on the fly figure out who is going for who.
We walk with them, and talk, but it's a little difficult to focus on SOTs and transitioning to good topics when having a conversation between 4 people. Something to work on more and figure out. I think stationary two sets are definitely better, but a moving two set that could be transitioned into an instant double date.
#4
Open another two set asking for directions. We try isolating a little better, but something turns the girl I'm talking to off and she pivots, taking her friend with her. I'm not sure what it was exactly. I think the pace of my voice was too fast/nervous. I need to focus on bringing pace... slower... more thoughtful... and more deliberate... so that it hooks... and draws my people in.
Main Lessons
- Focus on voice tonality and pacing
- Try to calibrate moving openers - some girls will respond well to drawn out, others won't. For the girls that are more in a rush, need to use the ex-girlfriend and without teasing it out in that case
- Persist more, and push even on sets that seem bad, just for practice
Possible two-set opener variation of the "Do you know who you look like" courtesy of Lofty
Me: OMG do you know exactly who you look like? Wait... Lobo, doesn’t she look exactly like X?
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