The Onlyfans factor

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Since 2020, the popularity of Onlyfans has exploded. If you gentlemen aren't aware, there is a whole industry of men paying women online for nude photos and the like on Onlyfans. It has enabled attractive women to make six figure salaries exclusively by selling images of their body:


I think that this phenomenon of Onlyfans is going to drastically affect how women interact with and view men going forward. To me, it's very similar to the "stripper effect". I've you ever talked to women who have worked for years in strip clubs, they almost all develop a loathing for their customers, despite getting money from them. They have to pretend to be interested in men who they despise for hours on end. Onlyfans is the digital equivalent of this. On the site, women have to force affection for men they would otherwise never talk to, so that they will donate money to their account.


How do you think this has affected the dating marketplace? Now, when you see a beautiful woman somewhere, there is a good chance that she has siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars from lonely men online. How will this affect her view of men in her life and the men she dates?
 

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>> Now, when you see a beautiful woman somewhere, there is a good chance that she has siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars from lonely men online.

Wrong. An extremely small percentage of women are on OnlyFans.

You need to get off Seeking Arrangement and start interacting with women in the real world.
 

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Well, to be fair, we don't know the numbers, but I'm sure it's growing every month.

This is anecdotal, but one of my friends' ex-GF put herself on onlyfans at the start of 2021 and has made over $100k doing it. She's 24, 5'7", fit and attractive, of course, but... this is Eastern suburban PA. She's not a Beverly Hills model. And (this is verified, she's shown me her bank account lol) she's managed to turn 6 figures doing this as a pretty, but not super-exceptional woman in Nowhere, PA.

Yes, not every woman is doing it, but I think, if we are talking about *attractive* woman, they've all at least heard of it, and probably have seen things on social media about it, and have either tried it or are thinking about trying it. So, if you are dating an attractive woman in her 20s, it *will* come up as a factor at some point, in my opinion.
 

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If you're on ig a lot you see it is flooded with hot girls who have onlyfans and because of this you form the conclusion that most women have onlyfans. This is wrong though. It's just your brain is biased and focuses on what's in front of you on your screen.

Most attractive women do not have onlyfans and don't have an interest in it. It's just the media is bombarding you with this notion that it's a popular,desireable, trendy,acceptable thing because even some celebrities trying to normalize it like cardi b,jordyn woods. You are making a lot of assumptions ,but they are based off speculation and limited evidence.

Sometimes I wonder too how the rise in camgirls affect the sexual marketplace and how it will change dating and if regular girls would try to get that. But I think it's absurd to adopt this redpill mentality that AWALT when it comes to having or considering an onlyfans.
 

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If you listen to people who've actually run cam studios and the like (like the Tate brothers) you'll realize it's men who run these things, women don't go off usually and do it by themselves. So women are often no more than employees, which means the whole thing is not something you necessarily should view as being part of a woman's mental framework in dating.

The assumption that the women despise these men, too, is not necessarily accurate. They might not want to bang them, but that doesn't mean they hate them any more than they hate some homeless bum on the street, they probably feel more pity than anything (not that it has any value for a man).

As far as how it makes women feel about men, I think it will only increase the value of face-to-face approaches and daygame/nightgame in general, as it's driving men to become incubated pussies (getting a disfunctional, skewed perspective about women from the lopsided nature of online dating and cam girls stuff, causing them to become resentful and bitter and bury themselves in fatalistic red pill nonsense) and women will crave real men with real personalities who put themselves on the line in front of her.

The dating market will become more polarized, there will be a lot of moaning virgins, a lot of bullshit will fly left and right between feminists and red pillers, and the only winners will be men who go and seduce real women the way they've always wanted to be seduced, along with the women they take to bed.
 

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Just change “Onlyfans” to models.
Six years ago the creme of the top was to date a model.
If you could date a model caliber girl, you would be considered a PUA.

Well, I’ve dated models and actresses and I am going to tell you what:
1) A TON of attractive and not that attractive girls have taken modeling classes at some point.
2) Most of them didn’t stay long because:
3) Modeling pay is usually crap, and…
4) Directors and producers are indeed trying to fuck them.

Most girls don’t make the cut, a big portion of them leave modeling because they find it too shallow and 90%-95% of the ones who stay don’t make ends meet through modeling.

Some girls get chosen by a big brand or are exceptionally good looking and they do modeling their career — we’re talking less than 1% here.

Onlyfans is the same… and the same as YouTube and the same as Tinder, etc…

You see some person doing tons of money and you assume it’s easy and everyone can do it but no… these are hyper competitive fields where 1% reap all the benefits and 99% are left with scraps.

For every Onlyfans millionaire, there are at least a thousand good looking girls who can’t possibly gather the same following or are not willing to do what’s needed (show your naked body and perform sexual acts on camera).

Also, would you even like a girl who does Onlyfans?
You can get girls who are as good looking (perhaps not as sexy) that do not like to go show their tits online and do not need to share details of their private lives to their “fanbase” 3x times per day.
I personally prefer that.

Side note: I have no statistics but I have heard that most Onlyfans girls are escorts… I have met a couple girls with Onlyfans that may as well be escorts.
Do you really care for getting the best prostitute??
 
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one of my friends' ex-GF put herself on onlyfans at the start of 2021 and has made over $100k doing it.

At what cost?
Online entreprises have advertising costs… it is very unlikely she got enough volume to get 100K USD purely on organic reach.

I’m willing to bet she is paying IG ads to get followers.
So the question I have is how much is she paying for those.
 

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That's the thing.

According to pseudo psychology, the consciousness reflects itself in all of it's creation.

I am just more confident that we only know how she is like once we reached the third part of the football field.

And that knowledge or lack of is what is driving everyone and Girlschase members, crazy. Because we really don't know

z@c+
 

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Scary shit.

That's the thing for Gen Z. You born in a bubble world and you don't get to see the real world like us.

So you can't differentiate shit.


z@c+
 

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Most girls make very little and later they abandon those platforms. It is only a few that make decent income from it.
 

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Alright, according to this article:

Miss Swedish Bella (aka Monica Huldt) is one of the top-earning creators on OnlyFans despite the fact that her monthly subscription price is set at $6.50. She makes the bulk of her money through the fees she chargers for commissioned work sent via private message. Business Insider reports that Huldt has gained more than 1100 subscribers and brings in more than $100,000 per year on OnlyFans.

Huldt offered up some advice for creators considering joining OnlyFans to earn money: "I would never advise someone doing it if they only wanted to do it like two days a week or something. It's not a part-time thing in your mind. You wouldn't make enough money."



Around 100K is god tier in OnlyFans.
Pretty impressive figure for a commoner... scraps for any kind of professional job with a 24/7 timeframe. That's like the median salary of the average manager and half the median salary of a medical doctor.
 

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She makes the bulk of her money through the fees she chargers for commissioned work sent via private message

To everyone, i been working on my blueprint to help me write better.

Almost all the high level people that you want to work with, they want to see, know what you are talking about.

They will see your ad and content which is everything but they know that the ad is for the commoners. They do not want to be in the funnel. They know that it is a frame war with you.

3 Categories of Customers:
- the masses
- the believers
- the payers

The masses, the stupid people (hahaha), are the ones that pays your bills. I am not sure how true this but for most businesses, this is it.

z@c+
 

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Alright, according to this article:

Miss Swedish Bella (aka Monica Huldt) is one of the top-earning creators on OnlyFans despite the fact that her monthly subscription price is set at $6.50. She makes the bulk of her money through the fees she chargers for commissioned work sent via private message. Business Insider reports that Huldt has gained more than 1100 subscribers and brings in more than $100,000 per year on OnlyFans.

Huldt offered up some advice for creators considering joining OnlyFans to earn money: "I would never advise someone doing it if they only wanted to do it like two days a week or something. It's not a part-time thing in your mind. You wouldn't make enough money."



Around 100K is god tier in OnlyFans.
Pretty impressive figure for a commoner... scraps for any kind of professional job with a 24/7 timeframe. That's like the median salary of the average manager and half the median salary of a medical doctor.
Since most people earn below $100k per annum, it seems quite impressive.
 

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If you can get her out, it doesn't matter if a girl is on SA or OF. I've met several hot ones in/near big cities who confessed to one or both and they're easier to game than regular girls [asking if they're on SA is a great way to start sexualizing the conversation]. If they think I'm going to be their SD, well, that's their mistake.
 

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Since most people earn below $100k per annum, it seems quite impressive.
It seems like it, but we’re talking top 1% in Onlyfans.

So you got to be absolute god-tier (beat almost all competition) in Onlyfans to compete with an average middle manager in any big company… sounds to me like a ton of work for meager results… not impressed.
 
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It seems like it, but we’re talking top 1% in Onlyfans.

So you got to be absolute god-tier (beat almost all competition) in Onlyfans to compete with an average middle manager in any big company… sounds to me like a ton of work for meager results… not impressed.
Amem!
Plus you are showing all your goods to the world!
Good luck finding a top companion after that.
(all porn starts have tons of trouble leaving the past behind)
 

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If you can get her out, it doesn't matter if a girl is on SA or OF. I've met several hot ones in/near big cities who confessed to one or both and they're easier to game than regular girls [asking if they're on SA is a great way to start sexualizing the conversation]. If they think I'm going to be their SD, well, that's their mistake.

Have you ever dated a girl who was on SA while she was seeing a sugar daddy at the same time?
 

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Scary shit.

That's the thing for Gen Z. You born in a bubble world and you don't get to see the real world like us.

So you can't differentiate shit.
I mean, it is but it isn't as well, is up to people to open up their eyes... We ourselves grew washed with television propaganda and Hollywood worshiping being pushed on us. Honestly, most people "don't get to see the real world" because they can't fucking leave their confort zone, they are afraid of everything and just keep on their blinds. It's been this way since Plato, heck, the whole Allegory of the Cave it's from before Christ... Society will always be this mindfuck of brainwashing, it's up to each person to open up their eyes and choose the red pill (not the shitty "pickup" movement lol, the one from Matrix)
 

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“MySpace is giving women inflated egos and going to kill the dating scene for men.”

“This new Facebook site is making women get to much attention it’s gonna kill the dating scene.”

“Instagram…”

“These damn webcam sites…”

“OMG you guys know about onlyfans, the sky is falling….”

Get the fuck off the internet and go to the gym or something. Hit on a few women in person on the way there. Breath. It will be ok.
 
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