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Society will always be this mindfuck of brainwashing, it's up to each person to open up their eyes and choose the red pill (not the shitty "pickup" movement lol, the one from Matrix)

I am becoming George Carlin the longer i live on this earth.

Learning how to criticize everyone and GC members in a way where we are laughing together at how powerless we are.

 

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“MySpace is giving women inflated egos and going to kill the dating scene for men.”

“This new Facebook site is making women get to much attention it’s gonna kill the dating scene.”

“Instagram…”

“These damn webcam sites…”

“OMG you guys know about onlyfans, the sky is falling….”

Get the fuck off the internet and go to the gym or something. Hit on a few women in person on the way there. Breath. It will be ok.
As much as I love the sentiment, it's has in fact gotten progressively harder for average men with each one of these.
Have you ever dated a girl who was on SA while she was seeing a sugar daddy at the same time?
Yes. Met a girl on the train in SF who was coming back from an SA date. She wouldn't tell me what app she was on. Fucked her and later she told me.

I've also gotten two past partners *into* sugaring.
 

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As much as I love the sentiment, it's has in fact gotten progressively harder for average men with each one of these.
Well, the average man is not getting better with time either.

Apps, feminism, identity politics… heck… even soy are bringing the average man desirability down.
 

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As much as I love the sentiment, it's has in fact gotten progressively harder for average men with each one of these.

Yes. Met a girl on the train in SF who was coming back from an SA date. She wouldn't tell me what app she was on. Fucked her and later she told me.

I've also gotten two past partners *into* sugaring.

I find it interesting how women juggle traditional boyfriends and sugar daddies. As someone on the SD end, I couldn't understand how a woman could try to maintain a classic "boyfriend" while also seeing me or any other SD regularly as well, without telling the boyfriend. Seemed unfair to him
 

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As much as I love the sentiment, it's has in fact gotten progressively harder for average men with each one of these.

Yes. Met a girl on the train in SF who was coming back from an SA date. She wouldn't tell me what app she was on. Fucked her and later she told me.

I've also gotten two past partners *into* sugaring.
The average man has gotten progressively less manly.
 

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Have you ever dated a girl who was on SA while she was seeing a sugar daddy at the same time?

I have definitely banged college girls who were getting paid $500 to have a 2 hour lunch/dinner with F500 execs in their late 50-60s. Often they got paid in AmEx gift cards, and they'd just bounce home at the end of the meal - they were into guys 15-20 years older not 40 years+. I've also told girls I've banged they should be on there if they're having trouble paying the rent. I'd say at least 3 of the runway models I've dated have been on there at some point.
This one girl I had started seeing had the best pair of tits I'd ever seen in my life. She eventually disappeared to another city, I think with an SD. My buddy's very, very hot girlfriend was on there to pay her rent, she definitely wasn't sleeping with anyone else while they were dating, but after they broke up probably a different story.

A Venn diagram of SA girls would be fascinating: You have high-value women on there who are just using it as a dating hack like hi-value men do. You have college girls that want to meet or date older, successful men. You have hot girls that will meet and sleep with a guy for free, but also hope they get given gifts/cash -- but without asking for it. You have 'soft escorts' on there who will be in a fwb/dating relationship in order to get their rent paid who do ask for those things. And you have regular escorts, of course, to be avoided at all costs.

My game was always the same with any girl who told me she was on SA, I would be the older, successful alpha she could bang and often [but not always] also get to go to great dinners, museums, casinos, fun charity fundraisers with. Drinks and ubers were always on me, of course. That alone goes much further than you'd think esp for girls who do not live in the city. A $20 uber can be meaningful cost for some of them.

TBH, you'd be shocked how many of these girls will more than happy to have an experienced sexual partner that could get them off, not slut- or kink-shame, and not be clingy. I'd say 95% of them were submissives. They enjoyed being told what to do, where to go, what to wear, how to bang. 'Amused mastery,' right? Some of them were also sexually inexperienced which was a surprise at first, very curious about bdsm. And most of these girls would have a very hard time ever thinking about asking to be paid for sex.

It was a real step forward for me when I understood all these girls were the same: SA, OF, IG, Tinder. It's the same girls, the same behaviors [in their Venn intersection], even if they're not on every platform. Just like there are strippers on IG and Snap and Tinder you can meet at their club, they're gonna act the same when they meet you for a drink no matter how you met.
 

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Well, to be honest, if a girl is saying that she's not sleeping with her sugar daddy, it's probably a lie. Very few men on that site will pay just for platonic dates. In the Sugar Daddy community we basically have a rule - the first date is uncompensated and platonic, called a "meet and greet", and the second date has to be intimate to proceed any further, and at that point we have a real transaction but only if intimacy is there.

Anyone who is giving money just for platonic dates is kind of foolish, and probably an outlier on that site.

But having said that, if intimacy is on the table, we will usually be very generous. I've gone as high as five figures in a month's time for a girl on that site, but we were meeting regularly and having sex every time we met, and again, she was one of these "cream of the crop" girls who looked like Cindy Crawford. Of course, at the time, owning an IT business, my yearly take home pay was well over seven figures...
 

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Well, to be honest, if a girl is saying that she's not sleeping with her sugar daddy, it's probably a lie. Very few men on that site will pay just for platonic dates. In the Sugar Daddy community we basically have a rule - the first date is uncompensated and platonic, called a "meet and greet", and the second date has to be intimate to proceed any further, and at that point we have a real transaction but only if intimacy is there.

Anyone who is giving money just for platonic dates is kind of foolish, and probably an outlier on that site.

But having said that, if intimacy is on the table, we will usually be very generous. I've gone as high as five figures in a month's time for a girl on that site, but we were meeting regularly and having sex every time we met, and again, she was one of these "cream of the crop" girls who looked like Cindy Crawford. Of course, at the time, owning an IT business, my yearly take home pay was well over seven figures...
What is your goal for being on this site we look down on sugar daddy or anything other than exchanging sex for sex? Or we flipping the script and being the sugar babies..
 

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What is your goal for being on this site we look down on sugar daddy or anything other than exchanging sex for sex? Or we flipping the script and being the sugar babies..
Well ideally I would like a long term relationship with an attractive woman, this kind of thing doesn't really happen in the sugar dating world. I realize it's very hard to find what I'm looking for, but that's why I'm willing to try anything.

The problem is, when you're financially successful, women will pigeonhole you into this "provider" category so it's kind of hard to break out of that role, especially when you're older, and you tend to *only* attract the gold digger types.
 

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women will pigeonhole you into this "provider" category so it's kind of hard to break out of that role, especially when you're older, and you tend to *only* attract the gold digger types

I been thinking about this for quite awhile.

It's on my blueprint. I called this 'Staging'. The Theater of. Women will pigeonhole you, into at least something.

Everyone even on Girlschase, is pigeonhole everyone and everything into something. As an example, you sincerely believe that women = looks money status.

I must recognize this before I can help move you into a new state. I cannot just take away your reality (staging).

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Hello, "older" means what age range exactly?
Well ideally I would like a long term relationship with an attractive woman, this kind of thing doesn't really happen in the sugar dating world. I realize it's very hard to find what I'm looking for, but that's why I'm willing to try anything.

The problem is, when you're financially successful, women will pigeonhole you into this "provider" category so it's kind of hard to break out of that role, especially when you're older, and you tend to *only* attract the gold digger types.
 

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Well ideally I would like a long term relationship with an attractive woman, this kind of thing doesn't really happen in the sugar dating world. I realize it's very hard to find what I'm looking for, but that's why I'm willing to try anything.

The problem is, when you're financially successful, women will pigeonhole you into this "provider" category so it's kind of hard to break out of that role, especially when you're older, and you tend to *only* attract the gold digger types.
Yes this definitely could happen and I have been talking about this, there are ways around that, look in my archives the money posts, we go into that in detail. The thing is you are pushing and fucking up your mental hardware and subcommunications by spending so much time with sugar babies... this will totally fuck your perception and view of women as a whole and will project in your interactions. Is already happening in the way you post, I totally thought you were a troll. .now everything makes sense.
 

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Hello, "older" means what age range exactly?

Well at this point I'm 38 years old... I consider that older compared to most young guys out there still dating. I wish I was in a stable LTR at this point but it just never happened.
 

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Well at this point I'm 38 years old... I consider that older compared to most young guys out there still dating. I wish I was in a stable LTR at this point but it just never happened.
Don`t even consider sugar daddy stuff until your looks go to shit.
But If you take care of yourself, your looks will never go to shit, and you pretty much won`t need that type of relationship to get regular pussy...got it?

Exception: 60+yo dude trying to bang 18yos.
Even so he`s way better IMO gaming hot older women (40ish-50ish) and supplementing with very young hookers.
Sugar baby is just a lazy hooker who demands more money/attention.
Why would we need that?
Better to get a pro and be done with it.
 

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Exception: 60+yo dude trying to bang 18yos.
Even so he`s way better IMO gaming hot older women (40ish-50ish) and supplementing with very young hookers.

To add to what POB says,. I am planning to make videos of me playing piano on Tiktok as i get older.

And to also be fit and healthy.

Always Remember, that the earth, the society is all dead states....... and only when it is perceive, it has light.

Pierce Brosnan is Dr Fate, i am sure he still gets a lot of attention.

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Don`t even consider sugar daddy stuff until your looks go to shit.
But If you take care of yourself, your looks will never go to shit, and you pretty much won`t need that type of relationship to get regular pussy...got it?

Exception: 60+yo dude trying to bang 18yos.
Even so he`s way better IMO gaming hot older women (40ish-50ish) and supplementing with very young hookers.
Sugar baby is just a lazy hooker who demands more money/attention.
Why would we need that?
Better to get a pro and be done with it.

Well, I like to consider my looks aren't shit, but I'm probably not in the top 20% looks wise either. So I like how the sugar daddy stuff basically gives you an "edge", it's like anything else, it gives you an advantage over someone else with slightly better looks or game.

And at least with the sugar daddy thing you go on real dates, even if there's money involved. With a "pro" you're charged an hourly rate and she doesn't even want to talk to you outside of that. With a sugar baby it's like real., normal dating, and you can spend a whole weekend together.

I like actually spending time on dates, doing things, having fun, on top of the sex. To me, sex is only like 20% of the fun of a relationship or being with a young woman, as strange as that sounds.

So for instance, in a typical sugar relationship, you'd give a woman a monthly stipend that you two agree on, or a weekly amount, and just see each other semi-regularly, without really putting time limits on things, all depending on how it feels to you. And if she's into you, it's almost like being a 20something and dating another 20something again.

Obviously this is not for everyone, and you have to have disposable income to make it work. Because, again, to some men, giving $5k-$10k a month to someone would be a considerable expense, but to some of us, it's not.
 

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Well, I like to consider my looks aren't shit, but I'm probably not in the top 20% looks wise either. So I like how the sugar daddy stuff basically gives you an "edge", it's like anything else, it gives you an advantage over someone else with slightly better looks or game.

And at least with the sugar daddy thing you go on real dates, even if there's money involved. With a "pro" you're charged an hourly rate and she doesn't even want to talk to you outside of that. With a sugar baby it's like real., normal dating, and you can spend a whole weekend together.

I like actually spending time on dates, doing things, having fun, on top of the sex. To me, sex is only like 20% of the fun of a relationship or being with a young woman, as strange as that sounds.

So for instance, in a typical sugar relationship, you'd give a woman a monthly stipend that you two agree on, or a weekly amount, and just see each other semi-regularly, without really putting time limits on things, all depending on how it feels to you. And if she's into you, it's almost like being a 20something and dating another 20something again.

Obviously this is not for everyone, and you have to have disposable income to make it work. Because, again, to some men, giving $5k-$10k a month to someone would be a considerable expense, but to some of us, it's not.
For well-to-do men who aren't interested in improving their fundamentals, game, logistics and having to deal with multiple rejections, it is a fair option.
 

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Well, I like to consider my looks aren't shit, but I'm probably not in the top 20% looks wise either. So I like how the sugar daddy stuff basically gives you an "edge", it's like anything else, it gives you an advantage over someone else with slightly better looks or game.

And at least with the sugar daddy thing you go on real dates, even if there's money involved. With a "pro" you're charged an hourly rate and she doesn't even want to talk to you outside of that. With a sugar baby it's like real., normal dating, and you can spend a whole weekend together.

I like actually spending time on dates, doing things, having fun, on top of the sex. To me, sex is only like 20% of the fun of a relationship or being with a young woman, as strange as that sounds.

So for instance, in a typical sugar relationship, you'd give a woman a monthly stipend that you two agree on, or a weekly amount, and just see each other semi-regularly, without really putting time limits on things, all depending on how it feels to you. And if she's into you, it's almost like being a 20something and dating another 20something again.

Obviously this is not for everyone, and you have to have disposable income to make it work. Because, again, to some men, giving $5k-$10k a month to someone would be a considerable expense, but to some of us, it's not.
I’m not sure the dates qualify as “real.”

I know some sugar babies and trust me, they do not enjoy the time spent with their SDs but they pretend to keep making the money.

You’re 38, I can’t believe you would rather spend thousands to play make believe than to put in the work. To each their own though.
 
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