This Girl Is Crazy Or Something?

[NarrowJ]

Zphix,

NJ, the majority of your posts are successes, and when I'm able to do what you currently do, I'll feel like I'll have accomplished something in this art
-Richard

Ha, thank you for the compliment. However, as you can see here I have quite a lot of things to work on myself!

And Zac,

I'm fairly certain there's no boyfriend in the picture here. Is it ok for me to ask her that outright?


NJ

 

[trashKENNUT]

J,

I'm fairly certain there's no boyfriend in the picture here. Is it ok for me to ask her that outright?

Doesn't matter. What i wrote, It's only a gauge to know what she is about. I be more concern with going a date and closing. YOu know this too.

Zac

 

[NarrowJ]

J,

I'm fairly certain there's no boyfriend in the picture here. Is it ok for me to ask her that outright?

Doesn't matter. What i wrote, It's only a gauge to know what she is about. I be more concern with going a date and closing. YOu know this too.

Zac

Well I'm approaching the date like any other. Under the assumption that she wants to go eat and then back to my place for "dessert"

NJ

 

[Richard]

J, just so you know, I expect a LR out of this

 

[girlsfollow]

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Well I'm approaching the date like any other. Under the assumption that she wants to go eat and then back to my place for "dessert"

NJ[/quote]
interesting that you eat with girls... Ive tried to avoid classic Date stuff like that and opt for drinks instead -....

the hot ones are always crazy like this - its because they can be and they know they can get away with it far more - you have done well so far - but yep suggesting when you are free was a biggie - very surprised that worked!

 

[Franco]

As an aside...

interesting that you eat with girls... Ive tried to avoid classic Date stuff like that and opt for drinks instead -....

...another option that girls absolutely love is taking them to grab some yogurt (such as Golden Spoon or something similar). It's as cheap as a coffee date, and it won't leave you wanting to race to the bathroom during a critical transition point!

- Franco

 

[Good Vibes]

I'm fairly certain there's no boyfriend in the picture here. Is it ok for me to ask her that outright?

You should be asking her very early on about that to qualify her as a prospect and to avoid wasting your time.
Just simply ask "are you single?" this is better than "do you have a boyfriend?" because it encourages her to give a positive response like "yes" and if she has a boyfriend that she's not happy with she'll feel free to not mention him.

And the jury is still out as to whether she is crazy or not. You should see some of the things this girl texts me. Haha

the hot ones are always crazy like this - its because they can be and they know they can get away with it far more

I dont care how crazy a girl seems, if you understand her body language and her subconscious mind and what it needs, you can find a way with her to discover what her subconscious mind needs and is telling her to do.
Obviously if you think it's not worth the time and effort with her than just move on.

 

[NarrowJ]

You should be asking her very early on about that to qualify her as a prospect and to avoid wasting your time.
Just simply ask "are you single?" this is better than "do you have a boyfriend?" because it encourages her to give a positive response like "yes" and if she has a boyfriend that she's not happy with she'll feel free to not mention him.

Yep, have read this many places. I think I originally got this from "Warped Mindless"'s DayGame Guide over on the Tactics & Techniques section when I first started reading this site. I nearly always do it on cold approach (example of me doing this here).

With this particular girl/situation, I just thought at this stage of the game it might come off as strange (even needy?) if I were to start asking about it now. She's already shown interest in me, so I think like Zac said it doesn't really matter. This whole situation with this girl has been really weird, even from the get-go with her approaching me the way she did.


NJ

 

[Franco]

NarrowJ wrote:I'm fairly certain there's no boyfriend in the picture here. Is it ok for me to ask her that outright?

You should be asking her very early on about that to qualify her as a prospect and to avoid wasting your time.
Just simply ask "are you single?" this is better than "do you have a boyfriend?" because it encourages her to give a positive response like "yes" and if she has a boyfriend that she's not happy with she'll feel free to not mention him.

I actually have to agree with NarrowJ's instinct on this one. "Are you single?" is an opener more used for gauging a girl's interest in you rather than to qualify her. Yes, you can use it to screen a girl, but there's really no point in asking a girl if she's single if she's the one who approached you.

What's the best way to find out if she's single after she approaches you? Move things forward and see if she allows you to. If she's not single and still moves things forward, then that also tells you that she's probably looking to be single and just waiting for a strong man to come along and free her from her current, unsatisfying relationship.

However...

NarrowJ wrote:And the jury is still out as to whether she is crazy or not. You should see some of the things this girl texts me. Haha

girlsfollow wrote:the hot ones are always crazy like this - its because they can be and they know they can get away with it far more

I dont care how crazy a girl seems, if you understand her body language and her subconscious mind and what it needs, you can find a way with her to discover what her subconscious mind needs and is telling her to do.

I do agree with you here, GV.

As a matter of fact, the hot ones can often make the best girlfriends once they've finally slept with you, but they also are the best at deflecting and confusing you during the courting and escalation process. They've been getting hit on regularly for years, so they have natural "game" when it comes to men. =)

- Franco

 

[Knight]

Wow, long read. This comment is just so i receive further replies into my inbox. In saying that, you pulled a strange one Narrow

 

[Good Vibes]

I actually have to agree with NarrowJ's instinct on this one..... but there's really no point in asking a girl if she's single if she's the one who approached you.

Oh yeah that makes sense however if NarrowJ is asking is it OK to ask he might sense she may have a BF, if so I dont think asking can hurt your game if you know how to help her get over her guilt but if you can't help her get over her guilt then not asking "are you single?" would make more sense.

TBH, if she started it I'm usually focusing on her chasing me that I dont even think of asking.
So either way you make a good point Franco.

 

[girlsfollow]

As an aside...

interesting that you eat with girls... Ive tried to avoid classic Date stuff like that and opt for drinks instead -....

...another option that girls absolutely love is taking them to grab some yogurt (such as Golden Spoon or something similar). It's as cheap as a coffee date, and it won't leave you wanting to race to the bathroom during a critical transition point!

- Franco

Yes I noticed that girls love frozen yoghurt at the moment - its in fashion

 

[Flames]

After reading you post and skimming a few replies.

I think you should just wait till next time she texts you when you free and invite her round immediately or to go for a drink even first, and absolutely don't chase do it in a way such as I'm going out for drinks want to join me kind of way, otherwise forget this kind of girl they're more trouble than theyre worth, usually.

It's a simple case of right tactic wrong girl

 

[stratvm]

seriously, i`m cutting girls like this one off ultrafast so thumbs up for being patient... it`s funny we men can overlook girls looking like complete idiots just to have sex with them.

my thoughts on her:
- she probably gets hit on regularly (she is hot & goes out & not shy - killer combination)
- i have a friend who works with 90% women so he has an excellent insight what they are doing - girls discuss every single little detail on all the men they got hit on so im sure she has tons of fun with your story too. and even they are single they just go out, make out & then drop the guy at the end of the night latest.
- now that i`ve been speaking with tons of girls this year i realized that they are like men when it comes to chasing - they do the same lame things and those who dont - or who treat you like this chick are the ones who have a lot of experience.

 

[NarrowJ]

Been meaning to get the FR up for our date last night. I'll hopefully be able to do it tomorrow sometime.

Basically, we went and ate and then sat at the bar for two drinks after, invited her home, resisted (said she had a 8am client the next day), I persisted a couple times, no dice. Walked her to her vehicle, kissed her (decent kiss, made sure I pulled back first) and that was it. We are supposed to cook homemade pizzas at my place Friday. So either I get some crazy LMR or will close this one out.

By the way, she is really flighty and thread jumps a conversation like crazy. I found it hard to keep talking about any one subject longer than a couple minutes. It's hard to form a rock solid connection with someone like her. Our personalities just don't seem to mesh well.

NJ

 

[Richard]

Funny how this post turned out the most replies in a loooooooooong time! Anyway J, I hope everything ends up well for you as far as your next date goes. If and when you bed her what is your move after? Gonna hold on to her or is she too much trouble to keep around?

 

[Franco]

NJ,

We are supposed to cook homemade pizzas at my place Friday. So either I get some crazy LMR or will close this one out.

This is actually where Chase advised me to not persist for sex (on the second date). The reason why? She knows it's going to happen. That doesn't mean she doesn't want it... it just means she's probably boyfriend-zoned you by not accepting your persistence to bring her home on the first date and wants to draw it out as long as she can.

Anyway, with Chase's advice, my second date consisted of a romantic outing to a fancy Italian dinner followed by a long walk on the beach... I pretty much melted her expectations by the end of the night and left her wanting more. And then I walked her to her car when she least expected it and didn't invite her home . On the third date, when I invited her directly over to my place to cook dinner with me, she gave me zero LMR when I went to bed her later that night. (Date Compression)

Now, the difference between my situation and your situation is that I actually did dig this girl, so I was willing to give the extra effort to see if the date compression technique was solid. And it turned out very well.

If you're just looking to experiment and improve your game since you don't see a strong connection between you two, I would be curious to see if you could bed her on date 2 with her knowing exactly what you want. Or, if you want to follow my route, you can take her for a romantic (maybe less expensive) date for date 2, and then invite her over to your place for date 3. The choice is yours, but I just wanted to give you a heads up as to what probably will happen based on Chase's advice and my personal experience.

Good luck!

- Franco

 

[NarrowJ]

Zphix,

If and when you bed her what is your move after? Gonna hold on to her or is she too much trouble to keep around?

Not too sure. We will see how it plays out. I definitely am not looking for anything serious at the moment.


Franco,

If you're just looking to experiment and improve your game since you don't see a strong connection between you two, I would be curious to see if you could bed her on date 2 with her knowing exactly what you want. Or, if you want to follow my route, you can take her for a romantic (maybe less expensive) date for date 2, and then invite her over to your place for date 3. The choice is yours, but I just wanted to give you a heads up as to what probably will happen based on Chase's advice and my personal experience.

For our date the other night, I basically followed my regular 1st date template. Dinner (nothing super fancy though), and a couple drinks after if things go well (which lately they usually do!) and then the invite back to my place. It just seemed natural to invite her over to my place for our date coming up on Friday. We get along really well, and she is a lot of fun (bubbly, high energy, funny), but I do find it difficult to get into a "deep" conversation with her about something serious.

She actually texted me late last night, and we had a short back-and-forth.

Her: Hey- just wanted to say I'm glad we met up last night! I wasn't real sure about it at first, but I'm really glad we did
Me: Me too! What weren't you sure about? If you don't mind me asking...
Her: Idk. Lot of guys just don't seem to try very hard. But then it seemed like if we didn't go out you were just gonna stop talking to me.
Me: Ha. Well, all I know to say is that I'm glad we went out too. So... now I'm looking forward to Friday ;-)
Her: Me too!! Well, off to bed. Sweet dreams, NJ!


NJ

 

[trashKENNUT]

J,

I like to insert something, because i realize girls can have a variant of the 5 of those types, i would call them now, Past Experience. I go with Franco. but it doesn't hurt to persist.

Zac

 

[NarrowJ]

Well... The deed is done, and it was fantastic

Met at the store about 6, bought ingredients for the pizzas and some wine. Back to my house, drank wine and made the pizzas. Ended up having a little food fight (hey, she started it!) and some passionate kissing and groping. Ate the pizzas at the coffee table in the living room, watched a little tv and seemed as though one thing led to another. I didn't even feel like I tried to have sex with her. It just felt like it escalated naturally, both of us enjoying each other's company and touch.

We didn't even get to sleep until about 430 this morning. We woke up about 1030, went another couple rounds and made breakfast. She just left about 15 minutes ago.

She is one of the top 3 hottest women I've ever slept with. The other two would be my ex-wife and a woman that I met at the veterinary clinic about a month after finding this site. Mindset is completely different now though. Instead of spending a bunch of time waxing and detailing my new Corvette, I'm ready to go get me a couple Ferraris instead

NJ