Troll attention-seeking thread

[DarkKnight]

@Regal Tiger haha I do not think most people have your capacity for detached pragmatism. You are not acting out of psychologicsl weakness or subconscious need. These people are and I want to understand that.

 

[Will_V]

That is ok. I take the risk

A risk for what reward?

How does it help you to believe these things? Does it bring you closer to your goals?

Or is it just more comfortable to believe a simple hypothesis than it is to open your mind to more possibilities?

You have missed one fundamental aspect of seduction which will cause you a lot of problems: women get turned on directly by being desired by men. There was even an article on Girls Chase showing the scientific aspect of this, I don't remember which. The fact is that desire and arousal are very, very tightly linked in the process of escalation, of getting a woman ready for sex.

Think about it, if a woman doesn't know if a man even likes her or wants her, is she more likely to face the possibility of getting rejected herself, or go into auto-rejection and save herself the trouble? Is she more likely to get wet or just feel anxious about the whole thing?
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I have always showed intense desire to women, just not desire that depends on her validation, just not desire that lacks patience or finesse. I always show admiration for a woman's beauty, I reflect pleasure at her presence, I use very strong eye contact, dominant body language, possessive touch, I show her by every means possible that she is the catalyst for my masculine energy. Everything about the way I act around women shows desire.

There was one girl I cold approached who I had sex with a few times (she was about to move to another state) after a breakup with my girlfriend, I had a lot of strong emotions in me, I felt very lonely and I needed a woman's body in my arms. I showed very intense desire whenever we met, to the point where as soon as we got home she just stood there wide eyed waiting for me to take her. I left such an impression on her that when I went interstate a year later, after almost no contact, she came right over to my hotel room and we did all sorts of naughty things without any inhibition. Because she wanted to feel that desire again, and she got it.

To be desired is incredibly validating for a woman, it is addictive. The problem is when that desire comes cheaply, dressed in poor fundamentals, a paralyzed inertia, and the sense that if it were rejected, it would collapse (which happens to be the frame that you are allowing yourself to take on right now). But when it comes like a warm breeze on a cold day, sweeping past with wondrous promise to whatever it touches, not stopping and waiting but moving along and making her move with it, that's when she wants to dance.

 

[Regal Tiger]

@Regal Tiger haha I do not think most people have your capacity for detached pragmatism. You are not acting out of psychologicsl weakness or subconscious need. These people are and I want to understand that.

Haha fair enough. Didn't know if you would be interested or not, but I gave it a shot

 

[DarkKnight]

Haha fair enough. Didn't know if you would be interested or not, but I gave it a shot

Always appreciated

 

[DonGately]

I did it once just a few weeks ago. A woman approached me and asked me a few questions about education is important (I don't think it is actually, school is a joke) and something else about little girls needing to go to school which I mentioned I don't like because it's biased for girls only and not all children.
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B) I wanted to watch her pitch and critique it/see if I could use parts of it myself for anything

It is very helpful to watch/listen to a good salesperson pitch, about anything, imho.

 

[DonGately]

There is a lot of talking past each other with OP. The group is right, of course.

OP, I use mostly indirect game but at some point [imo] you do have to show intent/vulnerability by letting her know you wish to bang her. It doesn't have to be verbal, it can be escalating kino, but unless she's giving you all green lights you do have to communicate to her that you want to whisk her out of the bar and back to your/her place for sex.
It can be as subtle as 'Let's get out of here,' direct sexual talk, or kino/physical to the point where she either stops you or is moaning/rubbing into your mouth/hand/cock. Or 100 other ways.

Most girls if you've shown intent, are well aware of your desires. But for those who aren't sure, or guys that are too indirect and showing off their palm-reading skills, that's why game recommends sexualizing the convo and using kino.

As an older guy, you think the 21y girl at the bar thinks I'm really interested in her opinion on *anything*? And the group is also right that there's more risk to her from rejection, ainec. If she's not interested in you, just move on with your life, you're not for everyone and neither is she.

 

[José enrique]

Cuando era fanático del estilo de juego de Todd V.

Quería hacer lo mismo que su Teoría de la "Premisa" en lugar de la "Intención" ... y creé varios tipos de abridores para mostrar la "premisa", es decir, comunicar que la interacción es de hombre a mujer y no platónica de amigo a amigo ...

Así que me obsesioné tanto con encontrar formas de mostrar interés sin ceder / perder mi poder y quise diseñar un plan de seducción para llamarlo:

Escalar sin ceder todo mi poder
(interés / validación) y comenzó así:

Abridores directos:

Elogio genuino = hola lindo vestido te ves muy elegante y llamativo ..

Aquí estaba pensando que te he dado un cumplido ahora cómo nivelo el interés mostrado y no parezca que ya me tienes atraído / interesado y no tienes que esforzarte / invertir para conquistarme .....

Entonces pensé ... probablemente reaccionará bien y dirá gracias por ser cortés, pero eso no significa que haya hecho un esfuerzo por ganar algo de mi interés.

Así que lo resolví con: Un Calificador ... Pensé bien ... Primero mostré interés en ella, pero al hacer que califique para mí después del cumplido, ella intentará venderse y parecerá que los dos estamos invirtiendo y ella también está tratando de conquistarme , ya que todavía no estoy totalmente convencido de ella ...

Entonces lo que hice fue. Que cuando abrí con un cumplido genuino ya sea por su ropa:

Yo: hola lindo vestido te ves muy elegante y llamativo ..

Ella: ah, gracias (sonríe)

Yo: de nada, siempre te vistes así de bonito cuando sales o solo en ocasiones especiales ....

Ella: Siempre me gusta verme bien..blah blah ...

Yo: bueno porque para mí es importante que una chica siempre se vea y se sienta bien ... tal vez te vea con un vestido sexy si salimos alguna vez ...

Solo un ejemplo de escalada sin ceder todo mi interés (poder).

Y otros tipos de abridores como push pull:

Hola te vi Y tenía curiosidad por conocerte y tal vez salir a tomar algo y ver si tenemos química, pero primero quiero saber un poco sobre ti para ver si no eres raro ...

Nota: solía cambiar "extraño" por "peligroso" ...

Si puedes ver ... sigo mostrando interés y no le doy todo mi (poder) porque cuando hago el Push ... la instigo a calificar primero y trato de invertir primero en convencerme ...

Saludos. Espero que esto te sirva de modelo de si es a lo que te refieres con que al mostrar interés cedes tu poder y pierdes valor tanto desde la etapa inicial como desde el abridor ... hasta el final del juego ...

Y si es así, hice muchas otras escaladas ... primero le haría invertir un poco (calificando para mí) ... cebarla o pedirle que haga algo (solicitar cumplimiento) antes de hacer un movimiento físico como besar o logística como moverla y fue una escalada mutua ... eso fue lo que me ayudó a resolver el dilema de cómo escalar sin estar descalibrado y regalar demasiado interés y perder valor ...

En pocas palabras: hazlo mutuo

 

[Bismarck]

Stop feeding this troll. He just wants your attention.

Speaking of value, he’s what’s called a value leech.

Fuck off BlueK.