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What is some routine based game that is the EASIEST way for guys who aren't good at game to get laid?

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Recipe for LMR, unless you're gaming the girls who have nonexistent ASD and will bang any white guy with a dick.

Honestly I don't get it. I've gamed in tons of countries, and I wouldn't say banging the hottest girls in Thailand is any easier (or harder) than elsewhere. Past a certain tier of hotness, they generally don't give a shit that you're white.

Everyone seems to have the impression that you'll get off the plane in Bangkok, swipe 9s and 10s on Tinder, and bang them after a coffee date with no LMR.

Maybe I'm crazy, but that just doesn't match the reality of me or anyone I know here. Either there's some godly secret PUA technique I don't know about, or we're just talking about vastly different kinds of girls.
You still need game but it's much easier in my experience, all other things being equal (including looks)

Some girls will still give you LMR, same as anywhere else, but it will be more rare and easier to overcome

This is just my 2c as someone who has intermediate game and traveled to a lot of places. Thailand despite having a lot of tourism, is still super easy

@TomInHo sounds like a great plan for night game, I'll try that next time I go out
 

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Get a plane ticket to Thailand and an individual room

Install Tinder and Tantan, upload your best pictures

Install Line (Thai whatsapp)

Small talk and ask for number after a few messages

Arrange date within a few days without being too pushy or sexual, meet at a coffee shop near your place

Attempt to pull every girl you meet on adate and escalate towards sex

Still need a bit of game but if you're white, I think this is the closest you can get to a silver bullet to get laid fast
I wish I had the cash lol
 

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Some girls will still give you LMR, same as anywhere else, but it will be more rare and easier to overcome
Interesting, because again that just doesn't match my experience at all or that of anyone I know here (unless we're talking specifically about girls with zero ASD, which definitely isn't the majority)

How long were you there and how many girls did you pull? Just curious about the sample size you're drawing these conclusions from
 
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Is there any routine based game cold approach methods that get women insanely easy?

No.

When a guy is starting pick up, he is learning a new langauge and transforming who he is as a person.

There is nothing easy, much less "insanely easy" about that.

If you just want to bang chicks - I'm sure there are prozzies whereever you are.
 

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Interesting, because again that just doesn't match my experience at all or that of anyone I know here (unless we're talking specifically about girls with zero ASD, which definitely isn't the majority)

How long were you there and how many girls did you pull? Just curious about the sample size you're drawing these conclusions from
I was there for 3 weeks, 10 days in Bangkok and the rest in Phuket

In Bangkok, I got 3 lays immediately, all with beautiful girls (because I had so many matches I only met the hottest girls). I saw one of the girls twice and had more dates that led nowhere, could have been way more if I stayed longer and had the time to do repeat dates

In Phuket I got 2 more lays in 2 weeks, both of them with hot young girls (1 was 19 years old with an amazing face and body).

Thailand was easier than any other country I've been, other than maybe some places in Africa (but African girls give more LMR). Might be because I'm blonde with blue eyes and benefitting from the full white fever effect
 

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I was there for 3 weeks, 10 days in Bangkok and the rest in Phuket

In Bangkok, I got 3 lays immediately, all with beautiful girls (because I had so many matches I only met the hottest girls). I saw one of the girls twice and had more dates that led nowhere, could have been way more if I stayed longer and had the time to do repeat dates

In Phuket I got 2 more lays in 2 weeks, both of them with hot young girls (1 was 19 years old with an amazing face and body).

Thailand was easier than any other country I've been, other than maybe some places in Africa (but African girls give more LMR). Might be because I'm blonde with blue eyes and benefitting from the full white fever effect
Yes what i heard as well same as Colombia, Brazil and Poland
 

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The hottest girls everywhere have options. Never known a place where white guys easily banging the hottest girls without much game. Just doesn't match my experience
Not that I really disagree with you, but there were expat bars in large non-Tokyo cities in Japan where all you had to be was white and employed with your own pad and the Asian chicks there would hit on you. This is 20+ years ago though.

Double OT [Food]: Back in the day, it was known in the PUA community in NYC that the easiest place to pick up hot girls, after-hours in Manhattan, was the Taco Bell [yes] across the street from Penn Station. Girls who had missed their train could sit there for 5 hours, or....do something fun with you.

No idea if that's still the case either, probably not but the logistics angle is still foolproof. Esp if you live within 10 minutes of the station.
 

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Interesting, because again that just doesn't match my experience at all or that of anyone I know here (unless we're talking specifically about girls with zero ASD, which definitely isn't the majority)

How long were you there and how many girls did you pull? Just curious about the sample size you're drawing these conclusions from
I personally witness, guys from the forum i know privately that would not be able to do as good in their home country went to poland same dude, same game, was getting laid 3 times a week about 8 and above, in his home country was pretty much invisible...

In my end of year review i recommend geo game arbitrage (i personally hate traveling to get laid), but i seen, guys that do not get laid in hometown get laid... and guys also increase the hotness level and the frequency....

As i said most puas that i seen having success is Poland, Colombia, Brazil........ One went to Argentina got meh results, but still got better than back home....

But totally agree guys that thing is just let me travel and a 10 will open their legs is none sense.... But is factual and has always been geo game arbitrage...

But again, that is why field testing exist we all have different experiences at times....
 

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I was there for 3 weeks, 10 days in Bangkok and the rest in Phuket

In Bangkok, I got 3 lays immediately, all with beautiful girls (because I had so many matches I only met the hottest girls). I saw one of the girls twice and had more dates that led nowhere, could have been way more if I stayed longer and had the time to do repeat dates

In Phuket I got 2 more lays in 2 weeks, both of them with hot young girls (1 was 19 years old with an amazing face and body).

Thailand was easier than any other country I've been, other than maybe some places in Africa (but African girls give more LMR). Might be because I'm blonde with blue eyes and benefitting from the full white fever effect
OK that's interesting. Awesome to hear you got great lays.

Personally I've not found it easier or harder to get the hottest girls here compared with anywhere else I've been in Asia or LatAm (maybe Europe is different)

Then again that could be because I do mainly cold approach - different category of girls than those who swipe on apps perhaps

But for sure it is easy to get laid. I've just found in general that most girls I met online are fairly average or just above average in looks compared to the ones can meet from cold approach, but that's subjective for everyone obviously (someone who's new to a place will have a different sense of novelty)
 
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city + alcohol* + girls + proximity + interest + escalation = the easiest formula for most guys.

City not required but helps get the reps in different venues with different crowds until you find the one that works best for whatever you are.


*does not mean 'get drunk.'

This is a good general formula...and it's basically the one every normal (but somewhat extroverted) guy uses.

Most regular guys would do quite well if they

1) Spent an afternoon at the mall getting a hair cut, a couple of new shirts, and some new shoes.
2) Go out on a regular basis - 3-4 nights a week (ideally 6 nights a week, no drinking, but..)
3) Talk to girls with zero tricks/technique/structure other than to escalate.

Making that the regular practice, to approach, yap, escalate (flirt, touch, ask the girl to go somewhere with you) - and they'd do much better than trying to learn everything about pick up before they even google to find out where the night life is.

They might go to the gym, they might making a lot of money, they might have perfect logistics, they might wear designer...but...

Most guys aren't going out
The few that go out, don't approach.
The ones that approach, don't escalate.

But

The guys that go out, go out regularly, do approach regularly, that do escalate (slowly, being socially aware and not autistic) - they get laid.

If they learn some basic structure - attraction before trust, trust before seduction - the lay rate increases, and the friend zone decreases.

Then the tips can come in
  • Screening for logistics, so you don't get stuck with a chick that is hanging out with her best friend since kindergarten and taking a flight in 4 hours - that most definitely won't leave the bar/club with you
    • vs the just broke up with her bf/recently divorced woman that's there on a conference
  • Noticing when a girl is checking you out and refining that "choosing signal radar"
    • oh wow, so if a chick crosses my line of sight, I should think of that as a choosing signal
More, more, and more bangs.

Learning how to dance, working out so you can show off the guns

More, more, and more bangs.

No routines, no nlp, no canned script, no emotional transfer/mirror neurons, not worrying about AMOGs, no alpha male/machismo stuff, not social proof, no pre-selection, never understanding frame much less using it, no cooperation/compliance testing, no congruence, no need for vivid or vulgar language to inflame the passions, no back-handed compliments, no false time constraints, no deep dives, no cold reads, no shock openers, no October Man Sequence..

^But if someone adds the technical skills on top of a good solid base of hooking up they could end up like this....

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^actually a lot of the literal playboys of the of the old days, and naturals of today don't really use a lot of the technical game that could get them better results...

Because at the end of the day - the bar is really low, because most of the competition is not trying. They're not even showing up.
 

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I disagree with you on nightgaming 3/4 nights per week. Unless you are someone who can survive on a few hours of sleep for sustained periods, I don't see how that is humanly possible without changing your entire body clock. It's the kind of thing you could only do if you were unemployed and lived next door to a venue. The maximum I can handle is 1 late night per week. And even then, my energy levels are pretty low last 1am.
 

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I disagree with you on nightgaming 3/4 nights per week. Unless you are someone who can survive on a few hours of sleep for sustained periods, I don't see how that is humanly possible without changing your entire body clock. It's the kind of thing you could only do if you were unemployed and lived next door to a venue. The maximum I can handle is 1 late night per week. And even then, my energy levels are pretty low last 1am.
I don't know many unnemployeed that can afford the $40 tp $100 cover and the $25 bucks drink.... total none sense, i have not even met in the community one night gamer in 20 years in the community that was "unemployed" total none sense...
 

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changing your entire body clock
Sleep cycle is 90 minutes or a little more, plus settling and dozing off time. You can nap. Set the alarm for 2 hours (or 3.5 if going for two cycles if you worked that day and are going to a super late club). You may wake up after the cycle before the alarm (much better than interrupting a cycle).

Dig into free entry with rsvp before a certain time cutoff. They are often $0 on ticketing websites and not always advertised that heavily.
 

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To be useful to my utmost ability here; I think the most useful no-effort, overnight thing you can do is buy yourself Creed Aventus cologne or Club D’nuit (cheaper spinoff)

One girl told me straight out she wanted to fuck me because of my smell.

But more to the real issue…

In any endeavor where you want to accomplish something truly great you have to put in the work. No matter if it’s getting a nice body, getting girls, learning a skill.

A shortcut mentality is poisonous for the mind - it would be better if you embraced the process and the work— instead of the result.

guys who are result-orientated have a much harder time than those who are process orientated. Additionally they get so much more out of pick up.

Mr Variety
 

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I don't know many unnemployeed that can afford the $40 tp $100 cover and the $25 bucks drink.... total none sense, i have not even met in the community one night gamer in 20 years in the community that was "unemployed" total none sense...
I think his point was more that an unemployed person has the time to catch up on sleep, not that they can afford going out

Sleep is the ultimate nightgame killer for me. My body does not let me sleep in, and I don't really have the ability to do naps-sooooooo it's a toughie
 

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To be useful to my utmost ability here; I think the most useful no-effort, overnight thing you can do is buy yourself Creed Aventus cologne or Club D’nuit (cheaper spinoff)

One girl told me straight out she wanted to fuck me because of my smell.

This shit was my one and only go to fragrance for many years (2015-2022). But I would not recommend getting this fragrance if you’re targeting 18-20 girls (older girls may still like it).The ones that consistently get me the best reaction from girls nowadays are Dior Sauvage Elixir for cold weather. And Louis Vuitton Imagination for warm weather.
 

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I think his point was more that an unemployed person has the time to catch up on sleep, not that they can afford going out

Sleep is the ultimate nightgame killer for me. My body does not let me sleep in, and I don't really have the ability to do naps-sooooooo it's a toughie
If you come from club at 5 am you wake up around 12 next day....i don't understand the sleep stuff...
 

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If you come from club at 5 am you wake up around 12 next day....i don't understand the sleep stuff...
WIA said 3-4 times per week. Some people have work at 9am. Some people also work Sunday mornings too like me. And I mean I’ll still go out tonight but I’ll feel like shit when I go to work tomorrow
 
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