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foggy

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my core competency is texting.

fog: a personality is my biggest weakness. i am a sucker for women with personalities
girl: im legit crazy im too much to handle lol
girl: im like the guy off the movie switch. who you looking for today? *laughing face*
fog: uh oh princess trouble i will go throw myself off a bridge now lol
girl: i feel insulted lol
fog: tell me, what are the perks that come with being around a crazy girl who is too much to handle? :)
girl: i could be wrong, maybe im not too much to handle. maybe ive let others mould my opinion of who i am
girl: tell you what, you take the time to meet me and you can let yourself decide what the perks are. thats unless youre chicken
*later*
girl: bok bok
*later*
girl: im going to bed. goodnight fog, i hope you enjoyed your night. sleep tight :)
*next day*
fog: sure ill give you 30 minutes :)
girl" youll give me 30 minutes lol
girl: how about i give you 30 minutes?
 

foggy

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to note: i am struggling with over investment in the girl above, and actively working on reducing it.

one thing i considered doing was calling her right after her chicken test and telling her to say "bok bok" out loud...then hanging up. regardless of what i would have said with my words, the theory here is whats interesting: get on the phone for a quick burst with girls i am texting, at key moments. i will try it.

after our conversation above, i ran into attainability issues with her due to a couple of reasons. the above qualification i shared above did not go as planned and she did not end up being fully qualified. after that, i was ignoring her longer than usual and pumping out DHV posts on facebook - which she saw. i know she was experiencing doubt about whether i actually liked her or not, causing her to be scared to invest. this was evident by her somewhat skeptical, unemotional reply to me ("really") telling her i wanted to see her after the botched qualy. i ended up choosing to strongly qualify her (perhaps too overly strong?) as the next step since i had not done so in previous convos - i also gave her a little bit of physical validation by liking her picture on fb right after i qualified her. it smoothed things out between us and made her feel comfortable investing again

fog: sure ill give you 30 minutes :)
girl: youll give me 30 minutes lol
girl: how about i give you 30 minutes?
next day
fog: i would love to see you on thursday girl name bo birl tame :)
girl: really
fog: of course girl name! i know we had a couple of rough days...but you're gentle, kind and caring...ambitious and determined...all around everything im looking for in an amazing woman and human being :) my only complaint is that thursday is forever away and i simply cannot wait!
girl: well is there a better day that works for you?
later
girl: thursday it is
later
girl: can we go for a walk?
next day
girl: good morning you

i see she also messaged me on facebook immediately after this as well.

to note, none of this really makes logical sense to me...looking at this, it confuses me. it makes emotional sense though....

happy for any brutally painful feedback
 

Skills

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my core competency is texting.
Wow she gave you a meet hint and instead of closing, you totally over game,

Right there you should have closed her, I definitely will, I have open Tuesday I can be the judge over a glass of wine
 

foggy

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skills -

im well aware of my mistakes here and when i should have closed.

it was an active decision for me to not pull the trigger - given i am in the midst of recovering from a layoff and mental health crisis.
 

Skills

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skills -

im well aware of my mistakes here and when i should have closed.

it was an active decision for me to not pull the trigger - given i am in the midst of recovering from a layoff and mental health crisis.
Oh I see, then it was good
 

foggy

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wow. this is very interesting to me how this has turned out. she stated she wanted more immediate investment with me ("cant be too far away you wont answer me now"). i put off giving her immediate investment, instead providing a promise of even greater investment to the future. as to be expected, it got her considerably wound up....

and look, now she is saying, "this isn't working" - the level at which she pushes me away/demands investment from me is getting stronger and stronger!

girl: good morning you
girl: cant be too far away you wont even answer me now
fog: sometimes i can be a bad texter but you will have my full attention when you are in my arms :p
girl: sometimes? you are a bad texter period
girl: you havent even made a plan with me
*calls me once, i dont answer*
*calls me twice, i dont answer*

girl: answer me white boy
she messages me on on facebook: "bruh take the time to answer me*
later
fog: a walk is a great idea dear but its gonna be shitty weather..better indoors over a glass of wine/weed
girl: i honestly never drink and when i do its grey goose lol
girl: you smoke?
girl: wheres this drink of whatever kind taking place
girl: ?
next day
fog: hi good morning
fog: my cozy and comfortable patio
girl: where do you live
45 minutes later
girl: this isn't working
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

foggy

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velasco tobasco -

getting back into girls while undergoing a crisis has me teetering back and forth on taking action.

with the way my brain works right now, my validation stems from getting permission.

you have given me permission and pushed me over the edge to sort out my awful logistical situation and get this girl off me.

thank you
 

Skills

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velasco tobasco -

getting back into girls while undergoing a crisis has me teetering back and forth on taking action.

with the way my brain works right now, my validation stems from getting permission.

you have given me permission and pushed me over the edge to sort out my awful logistical situation and get this girl off me.

thank you
Yeah it similar to the style of texting I had when with live ins I had to string them along and do lonnnnnng texting while they keep hinting meets while keeping them from dropping off
 

foggy

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next step: bacchus inspired reframe on crazy girl?

girl: this isn't working
girl: fog!
fog: hey now, everything is ok! tell me, how does your favorite memory of your children make you feel? warm? perhaps uplifted?
fog: i live in AREA XXX
girl: i dont know what my favorite memory is. unfortunately my brain blocks out most of my memory for whatever reason
girl: i mean the day each one of them was born was probably the best two days of my life
fog: interesting that you mention that about your brain...made me think. i have this sense that...you have been perceived as overly cray cray by other people. while that is awful, i feel...so non judgemental of u and ur behavior...in the way that even if you are crazy, it is okay to be crazy around me. :) do you know what i mean?
girl: i do know what you mean and yes. my babies father always called me crazy and delusional due to my mental problems so it kinda stuck on me. and it eventually worked its way under my skin and yes i truly believed those words.

her "this isnt working" comment, really got me thinking about why shes resisting and not just the fact that she is resisting. back in 2018.. i wrote about how women resist when they feel they are not in control...an insightful learning for me at the time, but didnt think much more of it....

....until, i found the advanced version of that today: codys masterpiece, seen here

cody explains that when girls need to take back control, it is good to step back and ask some light questions/use some humor to help them accomplish that. he also suggests girls need to feel justified (important - more on that in a sec)

so, for the next text, i decided to step back and take the pressure off.

i thought about asking, "what is your favorite color", but then i also had in mind tonys recommendations about being more emotional than logical. i ended up squishing these two tactics together. what came out was me asking a question about her favorite memory regarding her children:

fog: hey now, everything is ok! tell me, how does your favorite memory of your children make you feel? warm? perhaps uplifted?

imo, too heavy of a question.. a mistake? perhaps. afterwards i thought it could serve as a good transition from pressure (lots of flirting), to some pressure (heavy question), to pressureless (light question - what is your favorite color?)

but after i sent the heavy question to her, i received some interesting information regarding her favorite memory:

girl: i dont know what my favorite memory is. unfortunately my brain blocks out most of my memory for whatever reason
girl: i mean the day each one of them was born was probably the best two days of my life

1. she stated she is repressed (after an earlier statement that she is crazy!!)
2. the best days of her life was when her kids were born (perfect point to reference when i start building connection with her using the timeline)

her being crazy seems to be a theme from her. here is where i get confused. justification is important, cody says...but on top of that, this girl hadn't qualified herself to me yet. isnt that a form of justification?

i realized, maybe she has been trying to justify herself to me about her crazyness.... but it hasnt been acknowlegded yet.

so i decided to acknowledge it using a bacchus-inspired sentence structure about her craziness. she says she truly believes she is crazy.

fog: interesting that you mention that about your brain...made me think. i have this sense that...you have been perceived as overly cray cray by other people. while that is awful, i feel...so non judgemental of u and ur behavior...in the way that even if you are crazy, it is okay to be crazy around me. :) do you know what i mean?
girl: i do know what you mean and yes. my babies father always called me crazy and delusional due to my mental problems so it kinda stuck on me. and it eventually worked its way under my skin and yes i truly believed those words.

next step: we are seeing each other today, although i might have to flake on her till tomorrow due to my logistical issues. in the meantime, i am considering experimenting with a bacchus reframe to positively adjust her understandings of her own situation.
 
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Skills

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The girl says this isn't working, cause of your lack of responsiveness and addressing her questions, you are failing to understand her, all you had to do was to be my bad I have been so busy with work and school and I still want to meet you it will be fun, don't talk about weed unless you know she is into that cause it could fuck it up. All of that over analyzing and stuff is not necessary, keep it light. Flirty, sexy... all that stuff you are doing is unnecessary
 

foggy

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you are right.... mistakes galore!

she is closing off.

i will use this temporary failure as a springboard for my following successes.
 

Skills

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you are right.... mistakes galore!

she is closing off.

i will use this temporary failure as a springboard for my following successes.
Actually I noticed you gave similar advice to loft, about keeping it light, it seems a lot of you guys are trying to be bauhaus light which is great, but over text is different, also bauhaus is already congruent and calibrated to that style were it comes out naturally... give her some space, when sanctions over ping her and game her again.
 

foggy

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'bauhaus light", what is that? could you define and clarify please
 

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I think Skills may have meant: "Bacchus light"
 
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