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Hey all. New to the forum, old to GC. I've been practicing game on and off since 2019, though honestly never got particularly good at it besides daytime cold approaches Tom Torero style (RIP).
During Covid, I, like many other suckers, ended up stuck in a relationship that I didn’t completely want to be in. I broke things off last week, and now I’m back in the field. Still struggling with AA, but fortunately I had one very early success last night thanks in LARGE part to Teevster’s treasure trove on sexual framing and sex gambits.
Anyway, while out daygaming a few days ago, I received an IOI from this cute girl who was waiting for a taxi on the street. Walked over to her and delivered a direct opener which was well-received, which was followed by stacking assumptions - "You don't look Thai at all, I'm going to guess something more exotic. Iranian?" Half Thai-French, as it turns out. Continued with stacking and chit-chat, but the interaction was cut short as her taxi arrived. We exchanged Instagrams (thought I had made a critical mistake here as I did not explicitly ask her out).
Pinged her after Valentine’s Day and established some rapport via text. Turns out we are both avid travellers with remote jobs, AND she also just broke up with a boyfriend of two years (I could hardly believe my luck!). I quickly arranged a date - drinks at a chill rooftop bar not too far from my place.
Before the date, I had been studying @Teevster's articles on sexual framing and sex gambits, and I intended to make full use of these. Sexual framing has always been a weakness for me, and I think one of the main causes for my lack of success in the past. I have always relied heavily on physical escalation which, while powerful in itself, does not convey the level of understanding of sexuality that I now realise girls actually crave.
Meeting at the first venue, we spent about two hours chatting. I learned that she works for a humanitarian organisation and is very passionate about human rights, etc. This posed a challenge as her frame was quite strong and she kept gravitating the conversation back to that stuff, while I was probing to find a pathway to transitioning into sexual topics. An opportunity came when the conversation turned to France, and so I mentioned how I admire the French for being the centre of the sexual liberation movement. She agreed, but said she thinks they are “too open” about that. I took this as an indication that she is not ready for such topics yet, and so I changed the subject.
Later, I bounced her to a second venue, a similar bar but one a little more intimate. At this point there had been no escalation of any sort and eye contact was weak from her, so I had little hopes for a successful pull. Still, sometimes a simple change in venue can work as a psychological reset. This time, I decided to be bold and try some of Alek’s gambits, specifically this one about threesomes.
Wow, it worked like voodoo!
The very mention of threesomes sent her into a completely different state. She talked about her craziest sexual experiences, and I shared some of mine. At this point, I could tell she was starting to see me as a lover.
After returning to some more general conversation, I threw another gambit at her, then immediately extended it:
“You know what I find fascinating?”
“What”?
(Pregnant pause) “The female anatomy! From a male perspective, it’s so much more complex and profound. There are simply so many ways to make a woman orgasm. As a man, it’s honestly a constant learning experience for me!”
She LOVED that.
I decided to be careful though not to overdo the sex talk, so I was conscious of returning to regular topics in between before pulling her in with another gambit. As the conversation turned to travel:
“You know, I was in the Philippines recently too. There’s something they have there that Thailand doesn’t have, and it really surprised me. You know what it is?”
“What?”
(Another pause) “Sex toys! In the Philippines there are so many sex toy shops, yet in Thailand they’re illegal! Isn’t that crazy when there’s such a massive sex industry here?”
Again, she ate it up. She told me about how she used to work part-time at a sex toy shop in university. From there we talked about dildos, BDSM, and the customers she used to serve. She told me she’s into a very specific kind of Japanese bondage.
I could not have been more pleased with the direction of the conversation at this point! It was obvious that she was into me. After coming back from the bathroom, she stopped to talk with one of the male staff. When she later came over, she said “Sorry about that. He’s a friend of my ex, just so you know. It’s nothing else.” Green light! She also at one point of intense eye contact told me I had beautiful eyes.
At this point it was midnight and the bar was closing. I decided to go for the pull.
“Well, this place is closing up. Listen, I’ve got a half-finished bottle of wine at mine. What do you say we head back and polish it off?”
She giggled and said that while she doesn’t drink wine, she’ll come.
We held hands in the taxi, and I realised this was the first real physical contact we had all evening! To this moment, my mind is blown by the power of sexual framing. I’m such a bloody idiot, how did I go FIVE YEARS without ever bothering to work with this stuff!?
The rest is history at this point. I knew there would be zero LMR. We got back to mine, I escalated on the couch after about 10 minutes:
(Taking her hand at pointing to her tattoos) “Come here, let me examine you closer.”
(She straddles me) “This close enough for you?”
“Perfect!”
I began to kiss her all over, breathing in her scent, telling her how good she smells. She was 100% into it.
I stripped her, picked her up and carried her to the bedroom. She immediately started by going down on me (holy crap, that was the best BJ I’ve had in two years!)
I caressed her breasts and began to rub her clitoris. Boy, was she wet! I pointed it out and she apologised for it. I said “No, I like it”. Funny how girls think getting wet is a bad thing!
I put on the condom and she got on all fours. Took her from behind, later finished in missionary with her moaning and scratching my back.
Takeaways:
- Sex talk is incredibly powerful, but I need to work on transitioning into sex-adjacent topics, especially earlier in the conversation.
- Although it worked well this time, I think the key is to alternate sex talk with physical escalation, as some girls respond better to one or the other (her being French was surely a component in why she responded this way).
- I do need to work generally on frame control. Letting her take the frame to talk about humanitarian shit for so long really wasn’t conducive to the lay at all, and I think I could have expedited the seduction by wresting back control of the conversation.
During Covid, I, like many other suckers, ended up stuck in a relationship that I didn’t completely want to be in. I broke things off last week, and now I’m back in the field. Still struggling with AA, but fortunately I had one very early success last night thanks in LARGE part to Teevster’s treasure trove on sexual framing and sex gambits.
Anyway, while out daygaming a few days ago, I received an IOI from this cute girl who was waiting for a taxi on the street. Walked over to her and delivered a direct opener which was well-received, which was followed by stacking assumptions - "You don't look Thai at all, I'm going to guess something more exotic. Iranian?" Half Thai-French, as it turns out. Continued with stacking and chit-chat, but the interaction was cut short as her taxi arrived. We exchanged Instagrams (thought I had made a critical mistake here as I did not explicitly ask her out).
Pinged her after Valentine’s Day and established some rapport via text. Turns out we are both avid travellers with remote jobs, AND she also just broke up with a boyfriend of two years (I could hardly believe my luck!). I quickly arranged a date - drinks at a chill rooftop bar not too far from my place.
Before the date, I had been studying @Teevster's articles on sexual framing and sex gambits, and I intended to make full use of these. Sexual framing has always been a weakness for me, and I think one of the main causes for my lack of success in the past. I have always relied heavily on physical escalation which, while powerful in itself, does not convey the level of understanding of sexuality that I now realise girls actually crave.
Meeting at the first venue, we spent about two hours chatting. I learned that she works for a humanitarian organisation and is very passionate about human rights, etc. This posed a challenge as her frame was quite strong and she kept gravitating the conversation back to that stuff, while I was probing to find a pathway to transitioning into sexual topics. An opportunity came when the conversation turned to France, and so I mentioned how I admire the French for being the centre of the sexual liberation movement. She agreed, but said she thinks they are “too open” about that. I took this as an indication that she is not ready for such topics yet, and so I changed the subject.
Later, I bounced her to a second venue, a similar bar but one a little more intimate. At this point there had been no escalation of any sort and eye contact was weak from her, so I had little hopes for a successful pull. Still, sometimes a simple change in venue can work as a psychological reset. This time, I decided to be bold and try some of Alek’s gambits, specifically this one about threesomes.
Wow, it worked like voodoo!
The very mention of threesomes sent her into a completely different state. She talked about her craziest sexual experiences, and I shared some of mine. At this point, I could tell she was starting to see me as a lover.
After returning to some more general conversation, I threw another gambit at her, then immediately extended it:
“You know what I find fascinating?”
“What”?
(Pregnant pause) “The female anatomy! From a male perspective, it’s so much more complex and profound. There are simply so many ways to make a woman orgasm. As a man, it’s honestly a constant learning experience for me!”
She LOVED that.
I decided to be careful though not to overdo the sex talk, so I was conscious of returning to regular topics in between before pulling her in with another gambit. As the conversation turned to travel:
“You know, I was in the Philippines recently too. There’s something they have there that Thailand doesn’t have, and it really surprised me. You know what it is?”
“What?”
(Another pause) “Sex toys! In the Philippines there are so many sex toy shops, yet in Thailand they’re illegal! Isn’t that crazy when there’s such a massive sex industry here?”
Again, she ate it up. She told me about how she used to work part-time at a sex toy shop in university. From there we talked about dildos, BDSM, and the customers she used to serve. She told me she’s into a very specific kind of Japanese bondage.
I could not have been more pleased with the direction of the conversation at this point! It was obvious that she was into me. After coming back from the bathroom, she stopped to talk with one of the male staff. When she later came over, she said “Sorry about that. He’s a friend of my ex, just so you know. It’s nothing else.” Green light! She also at one point of intense eye contact told me I had beautiful eyes.
At this point it was midnight and the bar was closing. I decided to go for the pull.
“Well, this place is closing up. Listen, I’ve got a half-finished bottle of wine at mine. What do you say we head back and polish it off?”
She giggled and said that while she doesn’t drink wine, she’ll come.
We held hands in the taxi, and I realised this was the first real physical contact we had all evening! To this moment, my mind is blown by the power of sexual framing. I’m such a bloody idiot, how did I go FIVE YEARS without ever bothering to work with this stuff!?
The rest is history at this point. I knew there would be zero LMR. We got back to mine, I escalated on the couch after about 10 minutes:
(Taking her hand at pointing to her tattoos) “Come here, let me examine you closer.”
(She straddles me) “This close enough for you?”
“Perfect!”
I began to kiss her all over, breathing in her scent, telling her how good she smells. She was 100% into it.
I stripped her, picked her up and carried her to the bedroom. She immediately started by going down on me (holy crap, that was the best BJ I’ve had in two years!)
I caressed her breasts and began to rub her clitoris. Boy, was she wet! I pointed it out and she apologised for it. I said “No, I like it”. Funny how girls think getting wet is a bad thing!
I put on the condom and she got on all fours. Took her from behind, later finished in missionary with her moaning and scratching my back.
Takeaways:
- Sex talk is incredibly powerful, but I need to work on transitioning into sex-adjacent topics, especially earlier in the conversation.
- Although it worked well this time, I think the key is to alternate sex talk with physical escalation, as some girls respond better to one or the other (her being French was surely a component in why she responded this way).
- I do need to work generally on frame control. Letting her take the frame to talk about humanitarian shit for so long really wasn’t conducive to the lay at all, and I think I could have expedited the seduction by wresting back control of the conversation.
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