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2 approaches

- Very attractive young girl who came up behind me. I was taken by surprise and reacted too slow. Did a compliment opener, but she was already past me so I spoke to her from behind. She had huge headphones on and just kept walking.
- A woman on the beach, good slim body. Opened situational, she was quite chatty and friendly. Realized she was older and with bright red lipstick, which for me is a turn off. So after a few lines of friendly chit chat I just moved on.

Also texted the Korean girl from last Friday. I just asked how it's going and what she's been up to. No reply as of now.
 

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3 today. Good reactions today from all 3 of them. I'm feeling more confident than I used to. I'm also focusing on my posture, trying to walk with my head up and belly button in. It really makes a difference. The girls react better than ever!

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1st was a girl walking towards me. I was standing at a street corner, sipping a takeaway coffee. She looked kind of posh. Was wearing some extravagant little red shoes though, so I said "Awesome shoes!" to her as she walked past. She kept walking and I thought she'd just ignore me, but after about a second had passed, she said "Thanks" without turning towards me.

Felt good anyway. I like to think she appreciated the compliment, and maybe it made her day a little better.

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2nd, a girl I found very attractive, walking along the street. Tall, with very long dark hair. I was driving by on my bike and just stopped and said "Excuse me? I really like your style!" She seemed receptive and actually came a bit closer. Felt like she didn't understand me so I repeated in English. She said thanks with a smile. I asked her where she's from, and she said Ukraine. Turns out it's the same girl I complimented on her jacket the other day!

I asked her "I saw you on the beach before, didn't I?" She said yes. I said "You were wearing a really nice jacket... I love your hair too!" That was probably a bit over the top with the compliments, but it just came out that way. And it was true, her hair was amazing.

I think she just smiled at me but didn't say anything. I asked her "So, what are you doing her?" She said "I live here, with my boyfriend" I was like "Oh you have a boyfriend? What a pity! Well, nice to meet you!" and moved along.

I realize I was rather unsmooth with this one. In hindsight it's almost embarassing to type out what I said, but I'm here to learn after all. What do you guys usually do when the girl mentions a boyfriend? I guess I could have stayed to chat at least a little bit longer to not appear like a complete horndog.

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3rd girl was on the beach. Beach is pretty deserted these days, most people there were really old tourists with grey hair. But there was one younger blonde who stood out, with nice long hair. She was sitting very erect, and what stood out that she wasn't facing the sea but the other way.

When I left the beach I walked past in front of her. I asked her why she's sitting the wrong way around, with a smile. She smiled back and said the sun hurts her eyes. I hadn't expected that!

I realized she wasn't my type when we talked, she wasn't ugly or anything but I wasn't much into her either. So I explained to her that I was curious because everyone else was facing the other way, then wished her a nice day.

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Had fun today with all 3 approaches, even though I fumbled #2 a bit. Feel free to give me some feedback for that one.
 
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theReason

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It’s easy to come off as cringe-y when you respond negatively to hearing a girl has a bf.

“What a pity!” aka “Sorry to hear that…” is not a very professional response.

Responding happy and relieved—like a waiter that just heard “Yes, thanks!” in response to “Have you been helped?”—sets a better tone.

Fist-bump her.

Want to make her feel really good? Be like, “Damn! He lucked out!”

It’s all just a shade of positivity different from what you said.

I mean… getting laid is WORK, bro...

Women are looking to get their pussies “serviced” by a strong and dominant man…

I like to hear someone else served a customer for a change— you know I can’t get a spare minute around here, fuckin’ all these broads…

(Good frame-setting included here as a bonus).
 

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It’s easy to come off as cringe-y when you respond negatively to hearing a girl has a bf.

“What a pity!” aka “Sorry to hear that…” is not a very professional response.

Responding happy and relieved—like a waiter that just heard “Yes, thanks!” in response to “Have you been helped?”—sets a better tone.

Fist-bump her.

Want to make her feel really good? Be like, “Damn! He lucked out!”

It’s all just a shade of positivity different from what you said.

I mean… getting laid is WORK, bro...

Women are looking to get their pussies “serviced” by a strong and dominant man…

I like to hear someone else served a customer for a change— you know I can’t get a spare minute around here, fuckin’ all these broads…

(Good frame-setting included here as a bonus).
Makes total sense! Thanks for the feedback.

I did say "what a pity" with an honest smile on my face, so I hope it didn't sound as in "Sorry to hear that", more like, "Too bad for me." But I get what you're saying. Yours is a much better frame.

"Ah, cool, there's so many other girls waiting for me, good to know that you're taken care of!" :)

Will keep it in mind for the next time.
 

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Good day today. 5 approaches total.

#1 - WARMUP
Cute girl standing before a coffee shop I just walked out of. I said "They have good coffee here" to her... no reaction... so I said "I recommend it". She turned to me, gave me a nervous/polite laugh, then turned away again.

#2 - SALAD GIRL
Girl sitting on the beach munching a salad. Long straight black hair, but thick thighs which I don't like much. I decided she was probably Colombian from her looks. She was sitting hunched over her phone, very closed off body language. Probably on lunch break from work.

I decided to walk over anyway. I said "Enjoy your meal" - She gives me a quick glance, nod, then looks down again. I asked her if she's from Colombia? She says "No." and looks down again. I ask "From here?" she nods and look down again. So I go back to my towel.

#3 - TOURIST GIRL 2F SET (JUST BANTERING)
Decided to walk around some more. Come across 2 girls, one blonde sitting, one black haired lying down. I tell them "You are at the dirtiest part of the beach!" in English, because they look like foreigners. The lying down one sits up, laughs and says "I know!" I ask "Do you like it here?" She says "Yes!" I say "Why?" with a quizzical look. She answers "Because there's not so many people here as over there!", still laughing. I say "That makes sense!" then wish them a pleasant day since it's a 2 set, and quite a young one at that. There's another girl within sight that I want to check out.

#4 - ARGENTINIAN LAWYER
This part of the beach is quite empty, so it's possible that girl #4 saw me open set #3 which probably gave me some social proof. As I get close, I see she's drinking mate tea, so I figure she's Argentinian.

She's looking right at me, which in my book couldn't be a clearer AI. Her mate device (look it up if you never heard of it, all the Argentinians seem to love this stuff!) glistens golden in the sun. So I ask her "Is that a golden mate?" She says "No, it's orange!" I say "Oh it looks golden" and walk closer. Her body language seems very receptive so I opened from a bit of a distance.

I ask her if she's from Argentina, and of course she is. We are speaking Spanish which I'm reasonably fluid in. I sit down next to her, asking for permission which I maybe shouldn't have. But since I sat down on her cloth which was pretty large, I found it appropriate.

I find out she's on holiday here, and seems to come here often if I understood her correctly. Didn't find out why. Talk a bit about our surroundings, part of the beach is under construcion because they were some heavy floods after a recent storm here. We're at a quiet part of the beach though.

She's very attractive. I'd guess mid 20s. Quite friendly, but I don't think she ever asks me anything back. She does talk a bit of her own accord though when I ask her about where she's from and what her country is like. In hindsight shouldn't have dwelled so much on that.

I try to remember some pickup tech, I'm kind of struggling. I often forget everything I'm learning here while I'm in set. I did remember to test for compliance though. I asked her to let me smell her mate tea (because I didn't want to suck on her tea thingy) and she readily handed it to me. Then she also got the box of dry mate leaves out of her bag and handed them to me to smell also.

I should probably asked her if I can try a sip. I somehow felt that would be too much of an intrusion to suck on the same mouthpiece as her. But I realize this doesn't make sense if I'm actually trying to pick up the girl, since the goal is to exchange body fluids ultimately anyway... guess I don't have this fully internalized yet.

At some point I asked her what she does for a living, and she told me she's a lawyer. There I made another mistake. I don't know any lawyers personally and couldn't really relate to that profession. And I didn't really have a good reply.

She told me she loves her job, so I should probably asked her a bit more what she likes about it. Instead I said "Oh so that's why you have lots of dough to come here on holiday!", touching her bare leg at that point. She laughed at that so it probably wasn't all bad.

After a while, I felt I was running out of things to say. There were some silences from time to time. I wouldn't say necessarily awkward silences, just me looking at the sea a bit and after a few seconds talking about stuff happening around us. The construction in a different part of the beach, the dirt in this part, wanting to swim but it's too cloudy today, things like that. None of which was probably very seductive. Should have teased her much more, and also built some similarity in some manner.

In the end I decided this was going nowhere. I told her I have to leave soon and checked the time on my phone. As I started to get up, I told her it was great to meet her and shook hands again. I did remember to soft close, asking her if she wants to meet up one of these days for a drink. She declined, so I told her "All right, have a great day then!" giving her a last playful touch to the shoulder.

I walked back to where my stuff was, it was relatively far so she couldn't see my next and last approach. I was glad to have gone for the close, but also I felt I could have done better.

#5 - RED HAIRED RASTA GIRL
Right next to my towel I saw a girl with bright red rasta hair. I probably wouldn't have approached her but she was standing right next to me so it was basically a freebie.

She looked at me when I arrived, so I said hello. Saw she was in a bikini and wet. So I asked her if she'd been swimming, and she said yes. Chatted a bit about the water, then I asked her where she's from. I told her I live here, she asked me "Why?" and I just made a gesture encompassing all the beach and said "Because!" :)

Then I said "the beach, the weather..." She was smiling and didn't need any more explanation.

We did chat a bit more about the bad weather in our home countries. I complimented her on her hair, I liked the color really. She said "thanks" but it didn't sound too enthusiastic.

Inspired by her example I went for a swim myself. While I was in the water, and older couple managed to sit themselves right between me and her. Even though we were like 3m apart max lol. Some people...

I did reopen her after I finished swimming but it was awkward now with these people in the middle. Eventually she left and said bye.

CONCLUSION

I think I messed up #4. She was quite open at first. But the language hurdle affected me negatively. There's been a thread recently about whether to game in a foreign language. Someone made the point of always gaming in English because you'll have the advantage.

I should have asked this girl if she speaks English, then challenged her to practice with me.

Also could have qualified her as being smart when she told me she was a lawyer. Then ask her if she can get me out of trouble as a lawyer. I don't know how this works exactly but I imagine if she's a lawyer in Argentina, that doesn't mean she's a lawyer here. Might even serve as a subtle neg, hehe.

Anyway, it was fun and a great learning experience! As always, any thoughts please critique away. I know I can do much better than this, and I will next time :)

Having a blast recently! Reactions from girls are getting better and better.
 
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Good day today. 5 approaches total.

#1 - WARMUP
Cute girl standing before a coffee shop I just walked out of. I said "They have good coffee here" to her... no reaction... so I said "I recommend it". She turned to me, gave me a nervous/polite laugh, then turned away again.

#2 - SALAD GIRL
Girl sitting on the beach munching a salad. Long straight black hair, but thick thighs which I don't like much. I decided she was probably Colombian from her looks. She was sitting hunched over her phone, very closed off body language. Probably on lunch break from work.

I decided to walk over anyway. I said "Enjoy our meal" - She gives me a quick glance, nod, then looks down again. I asked her if she's from Colombia? She says "No." and looks down again. I ask "From here?" she nods and look down again. So I go back to my stuff.

#3 - TOURIST GIRL 2F SET (JUST BANTERING)
Decided to walk around some more. Come across 2 girls, one blonde sitting, one black haired lying down. I tell them "You are a the dirtiest part of the beach!" in English, because they look like foreigners. The lying down one laughs and says "I know!" I ask "Do you like it?" SHe says "Yes!" I say "Why?" She answers "Because there's not so many people here as over there!", still laughing. I say "That makes sense!" then wish them a pleasant day and it's a 2 set. Also quite young. There's another girl within sight that I want to check out.

#4 - ARGENTINIAN LAWYER
This part of the beach is quite empty, so it's quite possible that this girl saw me open set #3 which probably gave me some social proof. As I get close, I see she's drinking mate tea, so I figure she's Argentinian.

Her mate device (look it up if you never heard of it, all the Argentinians seem to love this stuff!) glistens golden in the sun. So I ask her "Is that a golden mate?" She says "No, it's orange!" I say "Oh it looks golden" and walk closer. Her body language seems very receptive so I opened from a bit of a distance.

I ask her if she's from Argentina, and of course she is. We are speaking Spanish which I'm reasonably fluid in. I sit down next to her, asking for permission which I maybe shouldn't have. But since I sat down on her cloth which was pretty large, I found it appropriate.

I find out she's on holiday here, and seems to come here often if I understood her correctly. Didn't find out why. Talk a bit about our surroundings, part of the beach is under construcion because they were some heavy floods after a recent storm here. We're at a quiet part of the beach though.

She's very attractive. I'd guess mid 20s. Quite friendly, but I don't think she ever asks me anything back. She does talk a bit of her own accord though when I ask her about where she's from and what her country is like. In hindsight shouldn't have dwelled so much on that.

I try to remember some pickup tech, I'm kind of struggling. I often forget everything I'm learning here while I'm in set. I did remember to test for compliance though. I asked her to let me smell her mate tea (because I didn't want to suck on her tea thingy) and she readily handed it to me. Then she also got the box of dry mate leaves out of her bag and handed them to me to smell also.

I should probably asked her if I can try a sip. I somehow felt that would be too much of an intrusion to suck on the same mouthpiece as her. But I realize this doesn't make sense if I'm actually trying to pick up the girl, since the goal is to exchange body fluids ultimately anyway... guess I don't have this fully internalized yet.

At some point I asked her what she does for a living, and she told me she's a lawyer. There I made another mistake. I don't know any lawyers personally and couldn't really relate to that profession. And I didn't really have a good reply.

She told me she loves her job, so I should probably asked her a bit more what she likes about it. Instead I said "Oh so that's why you have lots of dough to come here on holiday!", touching her bare leg at that point. She laughed at that so it probably wasn't all bad.

After a while, I felt I was running out of things to say. There were some silences from time to time. I wouldn't say necessarily awkward silences, just me looking at the sea a bit and after a few seconds talking about stuff happening around us. The construction in a different part of the beach, the dirt in this part, wanting to swim but it's too cloudy today, things like that. None of which was probably very seductive. Should have teased her much more, and also built some similarity in some manner.

In the end I decided this was going nowhere. I told her I have to leave soon and checked the time on my phone. As I started to get up, I told her it was great to meet her and shook hands again. I did remember to soft close, asking her if she wants to meet up one of these days for a drink. She declined, so I told her "All right, have a great day then!" giving her a last playful touch to the shoulder.

I walked back to where my stuff was, it was relatively far so she couldn't see my next and last approach. I was glad to have gone for the close, but also I felt I could have done better.

#5 - RED HAIRED RASTA GIRL
Right next to my towel I saw a girl with bright red rasta hair. I probably wouldn't have approached her but she was standing right next to me so it was basically a freebie.

She looked at me when I arrived, so I said hello. Saw she was in a bikini and wet. So I asked her if she'd been swimming, and she said yes. Chatted a bit about the water, then I asked her where she's from. I told her I live here, she asked me "Why?" and I just made a gesture encompassing all the beach and said "Because!" :)

Then I said "the beach, the weather..." She was smiling and didn't need any more explanation.

We did chat a bit more about the bad weahter in our home countries. Then, inspired by her example I went for a swim myself. While I was in the water, and older couple managed to sit themselves right between me and her. Even though we were like 3m apart max lol. Some people...

I did reopen her after I finished swimming but it was awkward now with these people in the middle. Eventually she left and said bye.

CONCLUSION

I think I messed up #4. She was quite open at first. But the language hurdle affected me negatively. There's been a thread recently about whether to game in a foreign language. Someone made the point of always gaming in English because you'll have the advantage.

I should have asked this girl if she speaks English, then challenged her to practice with me.

Also could have qualified her as being smart when she told me she was a lawyer. Then ask her if she can get me out of trouble as a lawyer. I don't know how this works exactly but I imagine if she's a lawyer in Argentina, that doesn't mean she's a lawyer here. Might even serve as a subtle neg, hehe.

Anyway, it was fun and a great learning experience! As always, any thoughts please critique away. I know I can do much better than this, and I will next time :)

Having a blast recently! Reactions from girls are getting better and better.
Great stuff dude! :D


I sit down next to her, asking for permission which I maybe shouldn't have.
Nah. I think this was the right move. Seated sets are tricky. Its easy for the girls to feel in "boxed in" and start to get uncomfortable. I would have also done the same thing and even added a false time constraint just to lessen the pressure. "Do you mind if I sit for 2 minutes!" But I would have kind of said that non chalantly with the intonation and not as a serious question.
At some point I asked her what she does for a living, and she told me she's a lawyer. There I made another mistake. I don't know any lawyers personally and couldn't really relate to that profession. And I didn't really have a good reply.
This is why its key to keep approaching. Now, you ran into a lawyer and froze a bit. Now you can sit down and think how you would respond next time you run into a lawyer. And if you keep approaching, you definitely will! :D

I usually ask what kind of lawyer or just go with

ah so you are the one defending all the serial killers? ;)

If she works in criminal law, which is rare, I will continue with are you one of those girls I read about who was always fascinated with serial killers/criminals.

If she is in corportate law I would say: Ah so I guess you are the no nonsense girl negotiating contracts all day and showing people you mean business.

If she is in tax, I would say: You must know all the ways in which one could launder money. Maybe you are connected to the mafia (mob), I need to be careful around you.

All of these said playfully with a smirk of course.
did remember to soft close, asking her if she wants to meet up one of these days for a drink
Great props on doing this.

I think this was a great interaction. There is no need to aim for perfection. But if you keep having these kinds of interactions, you will level up really quickly.

Again great job! 😎
 

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even added a false time constraint just to lessen the pressure. "Do you mind if I sit for 2 minutes!"
Great idea!

Now, you ran into a lawyer and froze a bit. Now you can sit down and think how you would respond next time you run into a lawyer.
Yep, that's what I'm doing today hahaha

I think this was a great interaction.
It was!! But I should have deep dived her on her profession and what she likes about it more. She said she loves it so that was clearly an invitation, which I didn't realize in time.
 

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0 today. Weather was gloomy and didn't see any hot girls out and about.

There was a 2F set seated near me and one of the girls was looking over frequently, so I walked over to them but upon taking a closer look I didn't find her attractive. Maybe I'd have opened anyway if I had known I wouldn't see any other interesting girls all day. But they really weren't that good looking.
 

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What do you guys usually do when the girl mentions a boyfriend?
I know it’s a bit older, but sometimes I may ask how long they have been together, and then if she says a small number I may joke how she is almost married, or if she says a big number that it is not serious at all.

Sometimes they say: “Sorry, I have a boyfriend”, so I tell them: “Lol, why are you sorry, hope you are having a good time”.

Other times I’ve said that: “I see, maybe in a parallel universe then”.

But generally I just try to find something interesting for me to say, because I don’t try to push it when it is a firm“ I have boyfriend”.

Personally all answers like: “Yeah and I have a goldfish”, or others that dismiss the boyfriend rejection to move the interaction forward have never worked. Maybe I’m just using them in the wrong way though, can’t say.
 

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Damn, another day of 0 approaches. On the beach there was thick fog today, and vitually no tourists. In the center there was some kind of xmas event with families everywhere. I went to a mall for a change, but it was again full of famlies and screaming children .The only girls I saw there were teenagers.

Anyway, November was still a good month. AA isn't that much of an issue any more, I'm more relaxed in set, and I'm finally going for the close.

Let's see what December has in store!
 
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2 approaches. 1st one got the number, 2nd one I ejected after the opener because once she talked I realized I wasn't attracted.

The 1st girl was real fun though. I saw her sitting on a bench, an Asian girl with her hair dyed part blonde. I liked the mix of black and blonde hair. Got AA though at first and had to push myself to approach. I did the old trick of telling myself I'll just walk over there and check her out from nearby. Complimenting her hair was automatic once she looked at me. She was super receptive, I sat next to her and we chatted for maybe 10-20 minutes.

She's a Chinese girl who's studying in a European country. Her English was very good. She's visiting here for a few days, and today is her last day.

So I found out her logistics for the day: She was waiting for some restaurante to open to have lunch, and then was planning to go to a museum which she already had tickets for. As we talked, she asked me quite a few questions back, so she seemed a bit more interested than the last girl I #closed which I got talking mainly about herself.

This girl even asked me what I'm doing later today, which I interpreted as a sign of interest. I told her I'll probably go to the beach. Since it's her last day in this city, I offered her to go for a walk on the beach in the evening, but she wasn't sure (i.e. evasive). Grabbed her number anyway, which she seemed happy to give me. Maybe she was just being polite, since she didn't reply when I texted her a few hours later. In my text I asked how she liked the museum since we had discussed that, but no response.

It was fun talking to her, and always great to grab a number even though so far it looks like a flake. I realize I have lots of stuff to improve with my conversational skills. I sometimes tend to go off on tangents that aren't really helpful for the seduction. Also at some points I said some real stupid stuff. Just one example, after grabbing the number and saying goodbye, I said something like "Maybe see you later, in case you're bored." She laughed at that, so did I... but later I thought, why the hell did I say that? Completely unnecessary and not helpful.

Anyway, great to grab another number. It's always a learning experience, if nothing else.

As for the second opener of the day, I did a situational comment on the sunset, to a girl sitting on the beach. She took her earphones out and agreed, but as she talked I realized I wasn't into her we just chatted for half a minute and then went on my way.

Getting more volume in would probably help me learn faster, but I just can't bring myself to chat up girls I'm not really attracted to.
 
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2 approaches. 1st one got the number, 2nd one I ejected after the opener because once she talked I realized I wasn't attracted.

The 1st girl was real fun though. I saw her sitting on a bench, an Asian girl with her hair dyed part blonde. I liked the mix of black and blonde hair. Got AA though at first and had to push myself to approach. I did the old trick of telling myself I'll just walk over there and check her out from nearby. Complimenting her hair was automatic once she looked at me. She was super receptive, I sat next to her and we chatted for maybe 10-20 minutes.

She's a Chinese girl who's studying in a European country. Her English was very good. She's visiting here for a few days, and today is her last day.

So I found out her logistics for the day: She was waiting for some restaurante to open to have lunch, and then was planning to go to a museum which she already had tickets for. As we talked, she asked me quite a few questions back, so she seemed a bit more interested than the last girl I #closed which I got talking mainly about herself.

This girl even asked me what I'm doing later today, which I interpreted as a sign of interest. I told her I'll probably go to the beach. Since it's her last day in this city, I offered her to go for a walk on the beach in the evening, but she wasn't sure (i.e. evasive). Grabbed her number anyway, which she seemed happy to give me. Maybe she was just being polite, since she didn't reply when I texted her a few hours later. I asked how she liked the museum since we had discussed that.

It was fun talking to her, and always great to grab a number even though so far it looks like a flake. I realize I have lots of stuff to improve with my conversational skills. I sometimes tend to go off on tangents that aren't really helpful for the seduction. Also at some points I said some real stupid stuff. Just one example, after grabbing the number and saying goodbye, I said something like "Maybe see you later, in case you're bored." She laughed at that, so did I... but later I thought, why the hell did I say that? Completely unnecessary and not helpful.

Anyway, great to grab another number. It's always a learning experience, if nothing else.

I did some more socializing during the day, but mainly with guys so it's not really relevant for this journal.

As for the second opener of the day, I did a situational comment on the sunset, to a girl sitting on the beach. She took her earphones out and agreed, but as she talked I realized I wasn't into her we just chatted for half a minute and then went on my way.

Getting more volume in would probably help me learn faster, but I just can't bring myself to chat up girls I'm not really attracted to.
Great stuff. You have definitely unlocked a new level. This is great. Its okay that the numbers are flakes. That will change as your conversations become more engaging and also just from a law of averages perspective. If you go on getting numbers, sooner or later one HAS to turn into a date :D

A large number of my first numbers flaked as well. And as you see from my reports, even now many flake. To a certain extent its just a part of the game.
 

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Great stuff. You have definitely unlocked a new level. This is great. Its okay that the numbers are flakes. That will change as your conversations become more engaging and also just from a law of averages perspective. If you go on getting numbers, sooner or later one HAS to turn into a date :D

A large number of my first numbers flaked as well. And as you see from my reports, even now many flake. To a certain extent its just a part of the game.
Are you typically sexually framing the initial interaction verbally? I wonder for a case like gameboy's girl who was only there for another day, maybe the value proposition wasn't clear?

Like maybe she would prefer to spend the evening alone than spend it hanging out with some guy... Unless he makes it clear he's trying to rail her and will clearly lead the interaction in that way?

I say this because I once approached a shy Asian girl on a campus and she knew I was leaving the next day (so no LTR potential for her I.e. less incentive to bother). I got the number and she answered the icebreaker but then went silent.

Only once I dropped some hints by saying that I had a room to myself (which to me is implying/subcommunicating sexual intent by making the point of mentioning this) did she start answering again. I forget how I fucked it up (probably neediness) but it stuck with me that she probably didn't understand prior that I had that end goal.

Meeting a seducer who moved fast may not be that common an experience for every girl. I remember Ricardus also told me once: use verbal sexual frames early on.
 

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One full-on approach today. A very pretty girl, sitting on a bench in a pedestrian area. I had actually seen her before on the beach, and saw her looking at me several times which felt like IOIs. But I hesitated to approach. Then some other dude came up to her and talked to her, grinning. I watched him getting blown out. That made me quite self conscious, and I didn't want to be the "next in line". Eventually she left, and I ended up kicking myself again.

Fortunately, I got a second chance in the evening. I was on the bike and saw her sitting on a bench. She seemed to be in a video call and was making kissing gestures at her phone. I thought "Hmm talking to the bf? But maybe it's only some girl friend, or family!"

So I stopped and said hello. She said hello back. I complimented her on her style, and added she's very pretty. She thanked me with a smile, seemed happy but not super impressed. I proceeded to ask where she's from: She said she's from a nearby city, visiting family here.

She asked me back where I'm from. I told her my home country and that I live here. I asked her what she's up to, she says she's waiting for her sister. Not sure if we talked about anything else, but I notice she starts looking back down at her phone. So instead of doing the boring questions and answers game again, I decide to go for the soft close right away this time. I asked her if she wants to go for a drink one of these days, but she declines saying "No, I think I'll hang out with my sister." So I said okay pleasure to meet you, and carried on with a big smile.

So cool to have gotten a second chance. It didn't even feel like a real rejection. If I see her again one of these days I might give her another shot.
 
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Did a number of approaches, I lost track of how many but I think at least 5.

Most got ignored, but one girl hooked super easily. I commented on her shirt, it was a band shirt of a band I also like and she loved it. She was super talkative and friendly, so we chatted for maybe 5 minutes. She's only here for today though, had plans for later, and wasn't all that attractive so I didn't go for the close.

I also saw the hottie from yesterday again, said "Hi" and "How's it going", and she gave me polite but very short replies. Again her phone was much more interesting than I was, so I left it at that.
 

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Had a bad experience today. I guess I know now the meaning of "wild card".

The first approach of the day actually went pretty well. I opened a girl on the beach that was quite attractive, and didn't look several decades younger than me for once. She appeared next to me when I just came out of the water in my swimming shorts. I asked her a question about her t-shirt, and she was really friendly and chatty. Turns out she was there with a whole bunch of people, they were visiting from a different country and about to leave tomorrow.

We chatted for a bit, and eventually I was talking with the whole group, they told me I was brave to go swimming with this weather, I told them they should try it for themselves, and so on. But there was no point in escalating with the girl since she one of the leaders of the group, and clearly occupied.

Later I opened another girl on the beach that was just about to leave. I had seen her arrive, so I knew she was by herself. She was also quite attractive, a little on the posh side for me, but still in the acceptable range lol. I opened situational, she didn't understand so I repeated in English. Turns out she's visiting from the US. I found out she's from DC and on holiday here. I made a bit of small talk, she was giggling an seemed to be quite happy to be approached.

After we exchanged the first few phrase though, a little drunk guy appeared and started shouting and gesturing at me in the local language. He told me not to bother the people, and to get away. I told him I'm not bothering anyone, and to leave me the fuck alone. People were staring. I noticed the guy had a scab on his nose, so looks like he got punched in the face recently. I kept my cool but stood my ground. The guy kept shouting and spitting his nonesense. I defended myself verbally, but didn't get physical. He eventually walked away, still shouting.

When he was gone I turned back to the girl, I think I said "Jeez" but of course now the vibe had gone to shit. She gave me a sort of shrug, then looked down like she didn't want to get involved. My mood had gone to shit as well obviously, so I had to bail. At first I turned the other way, but I didn't fell like slouching off with my tail between my legs, so I decided to confront the drunk guy. He was now sitting on a wall nearby. I walked up to him and told him he had no business shouting at me, and that I'm not bothering anyone. To my surprise he actually asked "You aren't?", then said "sorry" with an apologetic gesture. I was like "Yeah right, sorry." But at that point I felt it made no sense to continue arguing with this *****, so I left.

Needless to say I was pissed and not in the mood to do any more approaches. It was getting dark already anyway. What's annoying me most is that this girl was actually giggling when I started to make smalltalk with her, which I think is a first for me. It felt like she might have been interested...
 
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Had a bad experience today. I guess I know now the meaning of "wild card".

The first approach of the day actually went pretty well. I opened a girl on the beach that was quite attractive, and dind't look too young for me for once. She appeared next to me when I just came out of the water in my swimming shorts. I asked her a question about her t-shirt, and she was really friendly and chatty. Turns out she was there with a whole bunch of people, they were visiting from a different country and about to leave tomorrow.

We chatted for a bit, and eventually I was talking with the whole group, they told me I was brave to go swimming with this weather, I told them they should try it for themselves, and so on. But there was no point in escalating with the girl since she one of the leaders of the group, and clearly occupied.

Later I opened another girl on the beach that was just about to leave. I had seen her arrive, so I knew she was by herself. She was also quite attractive, a little on the posh side for me, but still in the acceptable range lol. I opened situational, she didn't understand so I repeated in English. Turns out she's visiting from the US. I found out she's from DC and on holiday here. I made a bit of small talk, she was giggling an seemed to be quite happy to be approached.

After we exchanged the first few phrase though, a little drunk guy appeared and started shouting and gesturing at me in the local language. He told me not to bother the people, and to get away. I told him I'm not bothering anyone, and to leave me the fuck alone. People were staring. I noticed the guy had a scab on his nose, so looks like he got punched in the face recently. I kept my cool but stood my ground. The guy kept shouting and spitting his nonesense. I defended myself verbally, but didn't get physical. He eventually walked away, still shouting.

When he was gone I turned back to the girl, I think I said "Jeez" but of course now the vibe had gone to shit. She gave me a sort of shrug, then looked down like she didn't want to get involved. My mood had gone to shit as well obviously, so I had to bail. At first I turned the other way, but I didn't fell like slouching off with my tail between my legs, so I decided to confront the drunk guy. He was now sitting on a wall nearby. I walked up to him and told him he had no business shouting at me, and that I'm not bothering anyone. To my surprise he actually asked "You aren't?", then said "sorry" with an apologetic gesture. I was like "Yeah right, sorry." But at that point I felt it made no sense to continue arguing with this *****, so I left.

Needless to say I was pissed and not in the mood to do any more approaches. It was getting dark already anyway. What's annoying me most is that this girl was actually giggling when I started to make smalltalk with her, which I think is a first for me. It felt like she might have been interested...
I had a friend who had this happen to him as well. It was a homeless lady. But he did not understand what she was shouting, and he just left.

I think it truly is a wild card like you say. Nothing much to do about it.
 

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Had a bad experience today. I guess I know now the meaning of "wild card".

After we exchanged the first few phrase though, a little drunk guy appeared and started shouting and gesturing at me in the local language. He told me not to bother the people, and to get away. I told him I'm not bothering anyone, and to leave me the fuck alone. People were staring. I noticed the guy had a scab on his nose, so looks like he got punched in the face recently. I kept my cool but stood my ground. The guy kept shouting and spitting his nonesense. I defended myself verbally, but didn't get physical. He eventually walked away, still shouting.

When he was gone I turned back to the girl, I think I said "Jeez" but of course now the vibe had gone to shit. She gave me a sort of shrug, then looked down like she didn't want to get involved. My mood had gone to shit as well obviously, so I had to bail. At first I turned the other way, but I didn't fell like slouching off with my tail between my legs, so I decided to confront the drunk guy. He was now sitting on a wall nearby. I walked up to him and told him he had no business shouting at me, and that I'm not bothering anyone. To my surprise he actually asked "You aren't?", then said "sorry" with an apologetic gesture. I was like "Yeah right, sorry." But at that point I felt it made no sense to continue arguing with this *****, so I left.

Needless to say I was pissed and not in the mood to do any more approaches. It was getting dark already anyway. What's annoying me most is that this girl was actually giggling when I started to make smalltalk with her, which I think is a first for me. It felt like she might have been interested...

I have never encountered this wildcard scenario in my cold approach journey over many thousands of approaches. I've seen much worse scenarios though.

This is a relatively mild annoyance if anything.

However, understandably, it might have rattled you, and possibly a hot prospect.

This might also be an opportunity to cross-examine that limiting belief on 'what others think' when we cold approach a girl.
 

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Just one half-assed approach today. Couldn't find any girls that I was particularly attracted to.

Still a bit bummed by yesterdays experience. But I guess there wasn't much I could do about it.
 
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