@funk_in_b_minor,
it's honestly ridiculous
I've been approaching since 2018-2019
It's 2025 and I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing
It seems like no matter what I do or say women aren't interested
And on the rare times I do get a number, it doesn't go anywhere
I wonder if I'm just not smart enough or socially savvy enough for this shit
I must have approached thousands of women at this point and yet my dating experience is minimal
Welcome to the Boards, man.
Write some field reports (check
@Mr.Rob's
how to write efficient reports guide). They'll give the guys here a much better picture of what you're doing and where you might be getting things wrong than a short/general post (where it could be anything).
That said, assuming you are putting enough volume in on a consistent enough basis (i.e., it is not occasional approaches here and there... like the guy who says "I've been lifting for years but haven't gained any muscle!" but he really only goes to the gym a couple times a month and just lifts haphazardly), the most common issues you see with guys who approach a lot but don't improve are:
- Poor fundamentals (bad haircut, facial hair, dress, posture, lack of smiling, poor eye contact, nervous tics, too-fast talking, monotone voice)
- Poor on-approach body language (approaches straight on like a homing missile, or approaches from behind where she can't see; stands too far away; faces the girl directly while she has her side turned toward him; never moves girls or locks in)
- Fails to use good early seduction tech (cold reads, teases, compliance building, etc.)
- Overly boring & pointless fact-finding conversation that jumps disjointedly between unrelated superficial topics ("Where are you from? Cool, what do you do? I see. Where'd you go to school? What do you do for fun? Do you have any pets? Do you live around here?")
- Making overly simplified "no game" approaches (neo-direct)
Put another way, if when you approach girls:
- You have a sexy haircut, sexy facial hair, impeccable/trendy dress, excellent posture, a cool & friendly smile, firm eye contact, no tics, and a chill voice with good expressiveness and vocal range,
- You have relaxed on-approach body language where you aren't signaling too much interest and don't startle girls, then get girls moving around with you and lock in quickly (especially so they are now facing you) to move into a more powerful body language position,
- You throw in a few good early seduction techniques (lightly tease her within the first 30 seconds so she knows it's a flirtation, do a couple of cold reads on her that make her feel like you see right through her, ask her for some compliance to get her investing),
- You do small drill-downs on topics to find out more about her personality and emotions, rather than get sucked into a fact-finding mission ("Where are you from?" -> "Oh no way, why'd you ever leave?" -> "I see. Do you like it here?") then relate back to her ("You know, the best thing about this town is [some cool or humorous insight that will make her laugh or nod her head and agree with]"),
- And you don't do neo-direct, and DO make sure to close (properly),
You will be making good impressions and getting phone numbers at least sometimes, and at least some of those numbers won't flake (unless your texting is atrocious).
If that is not happening, then the issue is almost certainly with one of those problems I listed above... or multiple of them...
Chase
