Low vs High Body Count - What's Ideal? cont.

[isildur1]

Lower body count women -
a lot harder to hook in sets from perspective - from the daygame approaches alot more rapport building , more long winded dates and generally a lot more comfort building required - can lead to frustrations and being very difficult to judge if things are going well or badly sometimes just straight up confusing

a l ot more lmr

Generally on average more secure in long term relationships, less prone to "being ditched" or flaked on long term if the comfort is built well.



I would say they have more patience long term too.

High body count women - much easier to get the same day lay , much easier to escalate and get sex on the first date - but more chance of getting ghosted on after sex, i've found the higher body count ones on average have more mental issues and are more prone to getting angry - being upset and can be difficult to maintain LTRs or convert from a serious thing to a fling.

I also read some statistics on a 21 convention speech (can't remember the name of the speaker atm) that high body count women have difficulty pair bonding and are more likely to file for divorces with their men - hence the sex will be easy to garner at first but you may have impatience and more issues further down the line.

It all depends what you want long term- marriage and kids then low body count will be ideal- high body count probably not going to be fun in terms of dating initially but could well be a better girlfriend/wife/mother to your children long term. I'd definitely say sex is more enjoyable with the high body girls than the conservatives

again everything is a theory "on average" there could be a lot of high body count women that make perfect wives and girlfriends and there could be a lot of conservative women that are horrible to date - i know some very low body count and conservative female friends that i know would be a pain to date and i know some high body count women that would genuinely make good wives and girlfriends so its all subjective on a case by case basis and depends on what you want from them most importantly

 

[Skills]

Lower body count women -
a lot harder to hook in sets from perspective - from the daygame approaches alot more rapport building , more long winded dates and generally a lot more comfort building required - can lead to frustrations and being very difficult to judge if things are going well or badly sometimes just straight up confusing

a l ot more lmr

Generally on average more secure in long term relationships, less prone to "being ditched" or flaked on long term if the comfort is built well.



I would say they have more patience long term too.

High body count women - much easier to get the same day lay , much easier to escalate and get sex on the first date - but more chance of getting ghosted on after sex, i've found the higher body count ones on average have more mental issues and are more prone to getting angry - being upset and can be difficult to maintain LTRs or convert from a serious thing to a fling.

I also read some statistics on a 21 convention speech (can't remember the name of the speaker atm) that high body count women have difficulty pair bonding and are more likely to file for divorces with their men - hence the sex will be easy to garner at first but you may have impatience and more issues further down the line.

It all depends what you want long term- marriage and kids then low body count will be ideal- high body count probably not going to be fun in terms of dating initially but could well be a better girlfriend/wife/mother to your children long term. I'd definitely say sex is more enjoyable with the high body girls than the conservatives

again everything is a theory "on average" there could be a lot of high body count women that make perfect wives and girlfriends and there could be a lot of conservative women that are horrible to date - i know some very low body count and conservative female friends that i know would be a pain to date and i know some high body count women that would genuinely make good wives and girlfriends so its all subjective on a case by case basis and depends on what you want from them most importantly

This is not so brother... You have gen z virgins doing ons or low count giving it to you right away and higher cost that give lmr more than low count... For instance there are puas that advice women 33 or ober cause of lmr... Young girls trend to be easier to influence they have no seen it all...

 

[isildur1]

I wouldnt be surprised if the research does show that. As I said in the beginning of my first post here, there a lot of shitty types of women with high body counts, so of course that skews the numbers. As I also said it is a coorelation not a causation, so you should judge her on other things, not the body count.

Ive examined a lot of my female friends , women i've dated etc.

when i started out "pua" i did mainly nightgame from aged 20-24 - because i was a loser with not much going on in my life the only women who were into me were drunk/druggie women at the time who i'd meet in nightclubs - these women would have very high body counts and it was difficult to build a meaningful relationship with them beyond sex because they were so depressive all the time. Even if i wanted to buy her breakfast or a coffee she'd they'd say no

Same thing happened when i went travelling latin america- if i slept with women who had high body counts from America, Europe i found the sex easier to obtain but they'd be difficult to manage beyond that - when i started daygame in 2018 my first lays were again - typically high body count girls impulsive tourists and a couple of women who'd been cheated on by their ex boyfriends and had used me to get back at them

again it was easy to obtain sex but hard to convert into something meaningful which left me in a confused state between trying to act interested to disinterested - and they'd flip out very easily over minor things which led me to believe that a lot of them weren't mentally secure

but being in London with so many different cultures and religions affecting women's relationship decisions it's easy to get confused or "lost" between a lot of women who have so many differing opinions on sex

analysing my family i have a female cousin in new york- your stereotypical "cool girl" captain of her high school cheerleading team she was extremely popular - had a lot of different boyfriends seemingly all the time - would end up in abusive relationships with fat cowboy texans and dump men and move on every 3-4 months or so. Despite being in a secure family she just seemed to want a fresh boyfriend all the time and was somewhat attracted to the drama that being with a fuckup contained.

Even my male cousin in America who was very popular with women would be a straight up ass hole to his girlfriends often cheating on them and leading them on in contrast my "low body count" family members all have secure marriages and families which are stable in the US , the ones who hooked up the most - don't . So i think there's so much argument to large body count and relationship stability . Of course the more success and the more partners you have the more you are likely to have drama come with your relationships. Family wise my Uncle who was a male model at the university of belfast had something like 4 divorces and would dump and break girlfriend's/wives hearts frequently - he wasnt a bad boyfriend in the abusive way but he was incredibly disloyal and would break up with all the women who adored him very easily. His ex wife even committed suicide after he cheated - all my other aunts and uncles have had very little sexual partners and usually married early on and were loyal to their partners till now/ death

Then again my older brother married a young Russian woman with a "Low body count" and she cheated on him with three other men - so from personal experience low body count doesn't guarantee a successful relationship

In terms of School and university - at school i was essentially a loser who women didnt pay attention to in terms of sex or dating but i still had female friends - and the highest body count women i was friends with were genuinely very kind people and good friends but they would often get cheated on a lot in relationships with older more experienced men and i think this led them to inturn be traumatised and sometimes irritable or easily frustrated. The highest body count girl at my year had something like 5 relationships with older men in the space of 3 years between 15-18 - which is quite alot in a short space of time - then continued to bounce from boyfriend to boyfriend every 3-6 months or so- her mother also found her husband cheating on her when she was 14 so i believe the daddy issues may have contributed to it.

At university again my highest body count female friends were kind people but would again but often easily irritable or impatient and would get dicked around and cheated on a lot which in turn lead them to have trust issues. - Low body count women had their issues too- in regards to socialised and integration at school and uni these women would often be somewhat isolated some of the time . My girlfriend's female friends who are low body count i believe they are simply because they are too shy to interact with anyone and never give any guy who approaches them a chance ( this is South Korea btw which still is religiously conservative in some parts) Personally i found daygame sets with religious Christian women , deep conservative girls the hardest to hook - maybe because im middle eastern they pre-judge me as muslim (which im not) but any how . A lot of these deeply religious women or conservative girls would be somewhat a bit autistic and hard to hook for basic conversation- despite their "low body counts" there were obvious issues with them going forward even if i managed to secure a coffee date with them again they'd seem low socially calibrated.

Maybe its the fact that the young women were dating older guys who had more options which led them to be somewhat traumatised after these older men would ditch them for someone else? i'm not sure - the plethora of options and the low dopamine of today's society could be what has trigged a somewhat narcissistic era where people simply don't give a f about each other and move on to the next person as a quick as possible -

for those wanting girlfriends or marriage then body counts and relationship with their father is definitely something you should take into consideration Again dating/pua is about what you want - and that varies for person to person - some people want quick hookups with as many people as possible - others want a good girlfriend and a wife

Also these are my personal experiences - they do not constitute fact of course - just trends i've noticed and conclusions i've drawn from my family/friends,social circles and dating experience - you're probably going to draw 10 different opinions from 10 different posters on this issue.