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Atlas IV

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But I have no interest in writing field reports. The whole thing is just cringe.
Writing field reports is how you get better. If you're not interested in writing them, it means you're not interested putting in the work to get better.

200 approaches and no results is not normal. You are doing SOMETHING wrong, and it might be an easier fix than you think.

If I or another experienced member here were to meet you in person, we would be able to diagnose it pretty quickly. Since that's not possible, field reports is the next best thing.

This is like a doctor trying to diagnose a patient knowing nothing about them, basically.
 

HeartOfChaos

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Writing field reports is how you get better. If you're not interested in writing them, it means you're not interested putting in the work to get better.

200 approaches and no results is not normal. You are doing SOMETHING wrong, and it might be an easier fix than you think.

If I or another experienced member here were to meet you in person, we would be able to diagnose it pretty quickly. Since that's not possible, field reports is the next best thing.

This is like a doctor trying to diagnose a patient knowing nothing about them, basically.

Chances are I’ve been doing Daygame longer than you, given that I’ve started in 2009. So one thing I don’t lack is experience, after thousands of approaches.

I wrote in my original thread that I used to get much better results (ie lays) back in the day a decade ago. Since the advent of dating apps these results fell off a cliff. That’s one thing. There were some other guys I met in Daygame who also reported exact same thing: their success went down in recent years. I also wrote I consistently get better results in other cities and countries. This was the case 15 years ago, and is the case now.


The second thing is : what’s a result to you? A first date? A lay? A phone number? And what level of investment on any particular woman are you willing to commit to , in order to achieve this result? Are you willing to take bullshit instagram contacts and play the waiting game? I am not.

Are your approaches bold and sexual, or at least with a strong connation of "seeding" an intimate encounter in near future (e.g. do you propose a drink at your place when you meet them in daygame?) I pitch for this majority of the time.

Are you willing to come on a date with a woman when it seems she was a bit lukewarm about you previously? I’m not.

Are you willing to come on a date with a woman where a priori it’s far from clear if she’s definitely open to fucking you on that date? I’m very, very reluctant.

Do you have easy logistics that allow you to pull women to your place easily? I don’t. I can’t even invite them to mine. This leaves their place or a hotel as the only option.


Due to all these reasons, I had to reduce my approaches to a basic , minimalist strategy that aims to filter out chicks who are super down to get down and dirty on the first date, or even on “insta date” so to speak.

The only result that matters to me is dick in pussy (or any other of her orifices). I don’t count numbers or dates or make outs as results. And I’m not very interested in setting up dates in neutral “locations", unless I am really into her and she is into me. I had enough of my time wasted and dates with women who were there just for the experience but were not interested in fucking me back in my younger days.
 
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Atlas IV

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e.g. do you propose a drink at your place when you meet them in daygame?) I pitch for this majority of the time.
Are you willing to come on a date with a woman where a priori it’s far from clear if she’s definitely open to fucking you on that date? I’m very, very reluctant.
Ok I think I'm getting the picture.

You are doing daygame and treating it like nightgame. Basically filtering for DTF girls during the day who have no ASD and are willing to go straight to a guy's house for sex under no pretenses.

Yes, doing 200 or even 1000 approaches like that will probably get you nothing. It's about the most inefficient method of game I can imagine. You're spam approaching for girls who are ovulating or have high sex drive and no ASD, basically.

Do you have easy logistics that allow you to pull women to your place easily? I don’t. I can’t even invite them to mine. This leaves their place or a hotel as the only option.
And to top it off, you don't even have logistics sorted.

I mean really man. Face. Palm.
 

HeartOfChaos

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Ok I think I'm getting the picture.

You are doing daygame and treating it like nightgame. Basically filtering for DTF girls during the day who have no ASD and are willing to go straight to a guy's house for sex under no pretenses.

Yes, doing 200 or even 1000 approaches like that will probably get you nothing. It's about the most inefficient method of game I can imagine. You're spam approaching for girls who are ovulating or have high sex drive and no ASD, basically.


And to top it off, you don't even have logistics sorted.

I mean really man. Face. Palm.

Yeah you are getting the picture. I am not filtering for DTF during the day all the time of course, but this was the dominant style for years now. This led to quite a few same day lays, instant makeouts, things like this.

Logistics have been fucked for about 7 years now. Not easy to sort out. Since 2018 I've been living with my mother who was sick and I was helping her. She passed away 3 years ago and since then I was involved in a legal battle to keep the place for myself. Spent thousands on legal fees and other costs. So renting a second place at the same time just for the purpose of fucking women is not an option . My place is very far from central London, and far from any viable day game or nightgame location. In suburbia where transport links aren't great. And there are other difficulties as well.

So yeah: I basically had no place to fuck for 7 years. Had to resort to going to girls' places (which are often not an option) or a hotel / AirBnB which also heavily raises ASD in many women.

Hence a part of the reason for my filtering was due to these issues.

And to top it off, no matter how you approach, most women aren't gonna be interested anyway. So results are always gonna be low.
 
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HeartOfChaos

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You are doing daygame and treating it like nightgame. Basically filtering for DTF girls during the day who have no ASD and are willing to go straight to a guy's house for sex under no pretenses.

Essentially yeah.

Even forgetting my shitty logistics, I simply got bored of going down the conventional route of a traditional date many years ago. I don't like "dates" with a girl who I haven't fucked yet, especially if this date is unlikely to lead to fast sex.

I don't want to spend my time with girls who are gonna be sizing me up on a date, who may put up all sorts of "games", who are gonna be flaky, who might be on the date just for entertainment, girls who have some internal agenda to only fuck on date number X, or whatever. I got sick, bored, and impatient with all this well over a decade ago, after laying my first 10 women or so.

And even if I tone it down, I noticed that 99% of women in London aren't gonna be interested in coming on a "conventional date" anyway, no matter how I approach them. The ones who come usually give you strong IOIs before the approach. Otherwise you are just a random guy who talked to them, no matter how suave or cool you appear, and with the amount of over stimulation a typical woman gets nowdays from social media, dating apps etc, she just ends up ignoring you or flaking. That was the reality for me for years.
 
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