Reminder you still need to use second gen in some scenarios

[topcat]

that is what we all do sometimes that is not enough... Sometimes your "gauge" based on the body language is not enough, in some of the cases... in other words you had 5 girls that you laid gave you the same pattern in the sub, 6 and 7 did exact same pattern but, it was not enough...

I don’t get what you’re saying?

i think you missed the part where i say im always sexualizing subcontextually.

i respond to a girls signals in set, i don’t care what the last seven girls did. when i used to do that i would end up with the issues you describe. I don’t seduce based on that. I respond to how she is affected in front of me, if she accepts my touch, faces me, leans into me, moves with me, signals me (i always wait for signals before asking her to do something with me) then i know for near certain she won’t reject sex.

I’ve had two cases of LMR in like the last 30 lays so something must be working..

 

[Skills]

I don’t get what you’re saying?

i think you missed the part where i say im always sexualizing subcontextually.

brother, we all sexualize subcontextually that is not enough with a minority of women

i respond to a girls signals in set, i don’t care what the last seven girls did. when i used to do that i would end up with the issues you describe. I don’t seduce based on that. I respond to how she is affected in front of me, if she accepts my touch, faces me, leans into me, moves with me, signals me (i always wait for signals before asking her to do something with me) then i know for near certain she won’t reject sex.

of course we all do this...

I’ve had two cases of LMR in like the last 30 lays so something must be working..

surprise you are getting lmr, i haven't gotten lmr in the last 5 years, has nothing to do with lmr, my last lmr was mrs skills.... But anyways...


Topcat, this is more night game clubs, so here we go so i can explain better:

- you had 5 girls you fucked you did the same stuff they follow the same pattern

- then there was couple of girls that did the exact same behavior of the past, and you thought it was a slam dunk

- did not happen, looking back (key word looking back), you think in that case if i done second gen would have worked, you got fooled by assuming it was going to happen...


i was doing both physical and sexual, was saying (i said that in every post to do both on physical game/natural game) i stop doing both cause most interactions didn't call for it now a days in the clubs, and when i was doing it when it did not call for it, i saw the face (too much)...

So yes maybe the market is changing were you may have to go back to do both again..... there was a point that dong both was not were the market was in my experience again night game clubs.... (in dates i always use second gen)...

 

[Spike]

nobody teaches pick up lines, people teach field tested stuff that works.....

Pickup line = a sentence or two that someone said. You telling someone to field test that sentence turns it into a pickup line.

Your frame of reference of what a pickup line is are those cringy, “do you believe in love at first sight or should I walk by again?” sentences.

When both are pickup lines. If you tell people to field test it.

You teach people how to think for themselves by providing examples of situations and showing them how you responded to those situations. Because they are not always going to find themselves in the exact same situations as the examples you provided. And is why it doesn’t matter. Because they already know how to think.

 

[Skills]

Pickup line = a sentence or two that someone said. You telling someone to field test that sentence turns it into a pickup line

Dude I was trolling your sample Jesus

Your frame of reference of what a pickup line is are those cringy, “do you believe in love at first sight or should I walk by again?” sentences.

When both are pickup lines. If you tell people to field test it.

Correct community is based on field testing

You teach people how to think for themselves by providing examples of situations and showing them how you responded to those situations. Because they are not always going to find themselves in the exact same situations as the examples you provided. And is why it doesn’t matter. Because they already know how to think.

Correct every gambits that are made include the above...

Just lol...

Brother this is something i did couple of times that caused me to get laid ..

I said blah

She responded blah

The reason she did that was cause of that ..

Dude reads and field test and fucks up and fix it and try again or work or doesn't work...

Welcome to seduction community..

Listen we can have high iq guys that know how to think and understand it could be bill Gates..

I rather read a gambit that teevester wrote explain the why and tested multiple times vs freestyling... But that's just me..

 

[Spike]

Correct every gambits that are made include the above...

Not every girl will respond the same way or provide the context for the things I responded with.

1) Not every girl is going to say she has to go to the gym early in the morning. And even if she did, the context for you to say what I said will be off because it’s too early for something that explicit. When a sexual frame hasn’t already been established

2) Not every guy is going to find themselves in a situation where they are petting a girl’s cat sitting in her couch. And her respond the way the girl in my example responded. About how her cat usually hates when guys pet her.

3) Not every girl is going to respond that she doesn’t like muscular guys and prefer skinny guys with dad bods to provide the context to say what I said.

4) Not every girl will tell you to say something in Spanish after you tell her you speak Spanish although this one usually happens a lot). But like the first example, the context might be off for you to say something bold like I said. If a sexual frame hasn’t already been established. Saying you’re going to fuck a girl in the ass. 1 minute into the conversation may even get you rejected. And then you’ll conclude “the line doesn’t work bro! I field tested it!”

and I will repeat myself. You don’t need for any of these scenarios and context to be present for you to verbally sexualize an interaction.

just to have top of mind. “Oh I can say something to get her thinking about sex here because she said this. And the context is right for it”