The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

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I have kind of been wondering @Chase how this plays out if you are gaming in a country where people look somewhat vaguely similar to you but are not even the same ethnicity or background. Like say you put some Indian or Middle Eastern guy in Colombia, Brazil, or a country full of latinas. On one hand he is brown and could under certain cases fit in with the local population but he is not of the same ethnicity.

The reason I ask is I have been thinking of going to countries where my ethnic appearance would be a boost in a nightlife situation or easy pull situation. The verdict goes I need to visit Northern Europe or any country where blondes are common or go to Africa where I would stick out. Only thing is I am starting to like Latinas and lost my thing for black girls and blondes a while back.
 

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@Oh Pry-

Why not a South American country with mostly European ancestry?

Sure, if you go to Bolivia, the people have mostly Native DNA, with browner skin and native features, and only a little European admixture:



You won't stand out physically as much there. Although it still might not be a problem... you'll still be a foreigner with a foreign accent, foreign behavior, and so on.

But if you go to Argentina, the women there are of mostly European stock, with only a little Native admixture:



Brazil also has a large European population, mainly in the south.

The rest of South America, it varies country-by-country.

Venezuela (probably don't want to go there right now), Colombia, etc. -- some Europeans, some Natives.

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@Oh Pry-

Brazil also has a large European population, mainly in the south.

Giving my two cents, as I'm from Brazil:

There was a strong italian and german immigration to the south (and southwest); the city of Porto Alegre is mostly italian, and Florianopolis is mostly german.

Curitiba, where I've lived for 10 years, is mostly polish, ukranian and german. It is the capital city with the best ratio of beautiful women in Brazil, but to my tastes the best city to meet single women is Belo Horizonte. The girls are more feminine and intelligent, their bodies are unreal, and the sex is INTENSE.
 

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Well @Chase do times change for sure. I have lost a lot of sexual attraction I had for blondes and prefer more of a Salma Hayek or that girl you posted last on your pics with the Argentina shirt on. I guess Salma Hayek or Roselyn Sanchez have become more of the type I want and a lot less of the blonde haired blue eyed chicks. There is something about Brazilian blondes though man, I've fucked a handful and had nights that had me going constantly with one lol.

As for my kind of look, I guess I ethnically look more Zayn. People tell me I should go to Scandinavia or Eastern Europe but the pale blonde really only appeals to me for validation if even that.

This is the kind of ethnic appearance I have



This is the type of chick I wanna fuck more of

 

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Funny to see that after all of the "blonde bombshell" threads over the years, you finally prefer my type now, @Oh Pry . :cool:

Yeah, let's wing together sometime and go for em lol. Funny shit is I have actually fucked quite a few tanned women with dark hair but not a lot of latinas. Never seem to hit it off with em, definitely fucked a handful but it ain't as easy lol.
 

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Interesting discussion here, and I wish to indicate what seems to be a problem that I can't quite wrap my head about.

What if there is a significant incompatibility between hot girls and yourself?

For instance when I lived in San Diego, and I'm sure you can testify, 90% of the hot girls in the city were sorority girls at the local party college. Now I tried a lot with them and couldn't succeed, but looking back I probably wouldn't even have enjoyed dating them too much, besides the sex, since the fratboy lifestyle itself doesn't appeal to me.

I very occasionally got with hot girls, but they were very much different in personality. I tend to get along well with calmer more introverted and nerdier girls. Those are the ones I feel like I enjoy their company the most and we connect the most in terms of values and interests.

Where I am now, the hottest girls are still problematic, but again, in east-central Europe, the hottest tend to be princess narcissist types obsessed with status symbols and so on, and often date rich providers in sexless relationships, or dangerous but successful mafioso types, or narcissistic businessmen who themselves are obsessed with meaningless status symbols, it seems.
I wouldn't really get along with such girls either.

The two guys I know most successful were also both quite different from me, a narcissistic highly extroverted entrepreneur, and one guy who was very silly fun and goofy. They both were very successful, and the second was just here a short time, and the first said he dated a large number of unpleasant girls until finding one that actually is hot and has a pleasant personality.

So on the one hand I'm very far away from the two types of guys who are successful. But to even construct some fake persona so as to emulate one of them wouldn't be so worthwhile since most girls I'd get would be very problematic.

There are of course some pretty and calm and nice students, but they are very rare that they are attractive, so it's just uncommon I even come across a girl who is at the same time attractive and compatible. And from what I've seen they generally date tall pretty boys who are the most popular in their local university circle, who I also don't resemble.

Maybe the "mafioso" type is the closest I can be too, but I would definitely need to add edge to my personality, and anyway I think it would also scare off the actually nice sweet girls and just appeal to the entitled bitchy ones.

I had one coach who presented an overall strategy that seemed to make sense:
-find out quickly what kind of girl she is
-in the rare case she is very attractive but is potentially compatible do the "standard" game
-otherwise if she is very hot but of this problematic type, play a hardcore lover mode of actually being different and refreshing from what she's used to and she could just be horny, knowing that she would obviously disqualify if one tries a more standard approach which leaves open the possibility of dating

with the expectation that every now and again one gets lucky to get a hot mltr that meshes well, but otherwise if she's hot then just go for fast redlining escalation and occasionally banging them once or twice, and then otherwise date casually pleasant but just "cute" or "average" girls

It seems like it makes sense. In SD itself, I had a wing who could hardly get laid trying to talk to the hot girls on the party school campus, but when he tried to get SDLs with the hot sorority girls on vacation hanging out at the beach, he was very successful, although of course those were mostly ONSs.
 

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I debate this question with myself all the time and have even debated it with senior members of this forum.

Towards the end of 2019, I had two choices to make for travel plans in 2020.

1. Go to countries where women naturally love handsome men of my appearance and I would likely get IOIs, easier lays, and be seen somewhat favorably due to social trends. Catch is, I am not that into the women from that country but love that they like men of my kind of background based on an eye test. Basically, men who look like me have gone there and dated hot women and done well with them.

2. Go to countries where men of my appearance or background might not be seen in the best light sexually and I might not do so well with the eye test. Catch is, I am really aroused by women from those countries with that kind of look.

After giving it some thought, I chose 1.

Now the experts will say "work on your game" or try to overcompensate in other avenues but here is my personal issue with that, I feel like the act of doing that is already portraying that you are lesser and are trying to make up for lost ground. A woman raised in a culture where certain traits you have based on appearance (darker skin, etc.) being seen as unattractive will not naturally be into you and even if you win her over, you realize that you were not her first choice. You realize if she had to choose in a blink of a second without you saying a word, she'd choose a guy of a different look than yours.

At the same time, maybe you get to a point where you sleep with women from backgrounds and cultures you are aroused by but at what cost?

My thoughts are, why not just visit whorehouses and fuck escorts who fit the look of women you want so that way you can get it out of your system?

I feel as if gaming girls from groups and cultures that see men like you in a bad light is always a bad idea since women are ultimately victims to a herd mentality.
 

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Now the experts will say "work on your game" or try to overcompensate in other avenues but here is my personal issue with that, I feel like the act of doing that is already portraying that you are lesser and are trying to make up for lost ground. A woman raised in a culture where certain traits you have based on appearance (darker skin, etc.) being seen as unattractive will not naturally be into you and even if you win her over, you realize that you were not her first choice. You realize if she had to choose in a blink of a second without you saying a word, she'd choose a guy of a different look than yours.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, @Oh Pry, but this is false.

If you sleep with a woman and give her the best sexual experience of her entire life, it literally will not matter what her physical "preference" was prior to meeting you. It will NOW be your physical appearance that is her preference.

There's even evidence you can find of this relatively easily if you look closely. Look for girls who continually date guys that look like their favorite ex-boyfriends. If you dig into that girl's history, you'll find that she PROBABLY didn't date guys who looked like her favorite ex UNTIL she met her favorite ex.

Girls are literally like water, even when it comes to sexual preference. They will change with the stronger tides. So if you ARE the strongest tide in her life, her preference will literally shift as she begins to fall very hard for you.

Even you have noticed this -- has your preference of blondes not slowly shifted over time to brunettes because of the sexual experiences in bed? Multiply this "shifting" feeling of yours by 10, and that's how it is for women.

If you keep asking the same question(s), I'm going to keep giving you the same answer(s). ;)

- Franco
 

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I don't know how many times I have to say this, @Oh Pry,
If you sleep with a woman and give her the best sexual experience of her entire life, it literally will not matter what her physical "preference" was prior to meeting you. It will NOW be your physical appearance that is her preference.

YESS! im going to lobotomize white girls with my chinese dick ;)
 

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@Franco

We should be in the next Post Malone music video because we keep going in Circles. The problem with your argument is simple, you are talking about after the fact, I am talking about before the fact.

1. Online dating? Yeah good luck with that, she is not swiping on you.

2. Nightlife? If you're in a loud nightclub where people cannot hear shit, good luck with that!

In any circumstance where men viewed as hot from her culture are in the vicinity and it is you, she is going for them. Even if you approach and they are there, she will generally give them a better reception and be nicer to them.

Even social circle I will argue this is the case. Now I know a recent article was posted on this but still dude, you are talking about after the fact.

I'd argue even then, if she is an image-conscious girl, she will buckle under social pressure of her racist or bigoted friend groups.
 

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Thanks to a recent post by @Grand Pooba which you guys can check out right here I wanted to revisit a theme that has long been central to my life when it comes to seduction. On paper, I am a part of the same ethnic group as my boy @Grand Pooba and that can be polarizing compared to being white like @Chase.

About having a "type" and the frustrating part of it.

I think all of us are inclined to have a type or lean towards one kind of look in a woman than others. We cannot help what we might be attracted to and some of us hit the jackpot when it comes to game and having a "type".

Clean cut white guy and Asian women are his type? Home run.

Aesthetic darker-skinned guy (Black, Indian, Latino, etc.) with a thing for Eastern European girls? No worries.

Athletic black guy with a thing for suburban white girls? Go get em!

If you are one of these guys who is in this favorable scenario, you might as well stop reading and just leave the boards altogether, you're set. Hot girls from some of these groups have seen so many women who look like them date the type of guy in question that they almost consider these men their types!

Then there is the more frustrating and abnormal part of it all. In this case, you being a guy who has a type but women of that type not normally seen dating guys like you. Make no mistake about it, women follow social trends like no one's business and if they do not see a lot of women who look like them dating guys who look like you, they are going to hold it against you. In some cases, it could also be that men who look like you are looked down upon in her culture as @Grand Pooba might notice going for Asian women.

So what do you do?

1. Be genuine in having a type, its either because women of that look are hot to you and/or you love the culture.

I loved hot blondes because when I was growing up, they were shown as hot and a lot of women I had a crush on were blondes. Even in media, something about that look had me going. Getting a hot blonde to me was getting to be with a look I was into. If I was going for hot blondes to get back at "the man" or "make it" in America, then I would have failed and it would have come out fake and not worked out for me. Unlike most people, I actually love American culture and think America is the best country on the planet, would not have asked to be born and raised anywhere else.

Make sure you love the women you love for attraction reasons or something genuine, it makes the whole transition smooth. In some ways, it works out because the frame is changed. You like blondes that happen to be hot so even if she is not a girl from rich suburbia, she is a hot blonde and it is a great night, it widens your pool among that type.

2. Be as attractive as possible and go for attractive girls that meet your fancy, even if they are not exactly your type.

My type for the longest of time was hot blondes but I found for a weird strange reason, brunettes and more tanned skin white women with dark hair gave me too many IOIs and attention. At times, cute girls with that kind of a look would make it so obvious that they are down that I had to act on it. To this date, I'd say 80% of my lays have been with white girls with tanned skin and dark hair.

Over time, I started to notice something, hot blondes started liking me more too. I had some blonde bombshells shooting me IOIs or telling me I am handsome, this used to never happen. The thing about winning is that it attracts more winning, plus you get less bogged down by X girls not liking Y guys. Soon enough, you'll see that other kinds of girls who are your type start propping up everywhere and want your fancy. I magically started to match with hot blondes on Hinge and Bumble more, though most of my matches are still either brown women or dark-haired white girls.

3. Do not sell yourself out for your "type".

I disagree with the notion that you need to change who you are completely in order to get your type, I think being high value on paper should be what you aim for in general in life. You should want to be as hot as you can be, as rich as you can be, and as socially advanced as you can be due to the benefits outside of game. I will not, on the other hand, wear Greek Letters or talk Greek Life just so I can get hot blondes. It is a fruitless effort and you'll cringe at yourself for doing it.

4. See it more as an Electoral College in the US Presidential Election and decide if it is worth it.

Some women come from cultures that are shallow and some from very racist backward cultures that see certain appearances as below them. Certain kinds of women were raised to think of you as below them or see men of your race as a certain stereotype. As much as @Grand Pooba loves Asian girls and as optimistic as he might be, even he won't bother going to San Franciso for Asian women given the city's racist culture towards Indian men.

In the US, the presidential election is decided by the Electoral college where all 50 states vote and their votes are weighed. A candidate can win 51% of votes in some states and win the whole majority but sometimes, they win over 60% in some states and at times even close to 70. Point being, even in the most Republican of states there are liberal democrats and vice versa.

Accept that while a guy who is of her type might get 70% of women in a given group that are interested, you might only get 40% or 30%. This is where you ask yourself if it is worth it to even pursue your "type" and instead go for your match.

5. Accept the harsh reality of preferences, don't sell yourself out, and keep your head up.

Some cultures do produce women that are bigoted and largely intolerant, you might be at the end of that bigotry. While some will tell you to try and "have better game", I think it is not worth it, in the end, to sell out to such people. While some men might benefit from the bigotry of such cultures and be seen as their type, others are starting off way behind.

I say forget gaming women from such cultures and just go for girls, in general, you are attracted to, I promise it is not just that culture or background.

The fact of the matter is that the universe balances itself out for exceptional men, you have a market somewhere full of women who are dying to fuck you!
 

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In some cases, it could also be that men who look like you are looked down upon in her culture as @Grand Pooba might notice going for Asian women.

I have not said this.


As much as @Grand Pooba loves Asian girls and as optimistic as he might be, even he won't bother going to San Franciso for Asian women given the city's racist culture towards Indian men.
I have not said this either. In fact, I have hooked up with Asian women in San Francisco, several times. You can even read an LR here from SF nightgame, my first ever night game pull in fact, with a Chinese girl:

I have said however that I find SF women less attractive than in other cities, and some of them have a higher wall. But that also doesn’t stop me - I have hooked up with several women in San Francisco whom I found attractive.

@Oh Pry please stop speaking on my behalf on this subject, I do not agree with you. In fact, my whole game style is going after women whom are “atypical” to my race, as you put it.... but I don’t feel that way. Which is why I wrote an article about it.
 

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To be frank , “ my type of woman “ sounds very shallow . Trust me , there are hot women in every race . I saw some mixture between Iranian and Swedish , and I could not get my foot out of my mouth , even though I am quite racist myself towards Arab background .

i do not like black women in general , but I saw a couple of them and the only thoughts In my head involved Tarzan screaming .

what is also true , is that some ethnical groups have more attractive women , while others not so many , but for sure all of them have attractive women .

same thing applies to guys. If you have top notch fundamentals for sure you are an attractive guy , and girls will be like , neah I can not believe that you are that ethnical group, or they will just not care at all :)
 
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I have not said this.



I have not said this either. In fact, I have hooked up with Asian women in San Francisco, several times. You can even read an LR here from SF nightgame, my first ever night game pull in fact, with a Chinese girl:

I have said however that I find SF women less attractive than in other cities, and some of them have a higher wall. But that also doesn’t stop me - I have hooked up with several women in San Francisco whom I found attractive.

@Oh Pry please stop speaking on my behalf on this subject, I do not agree with you. In fact, my whole game style is going after women whom are “atypical” to my race, as you put it.... but I don’t feel that way. Which is why I wrote an article about it.

I immediately took off her panties and got on top of her, and rawdogged it in missionary. It took a good five minutes just to get it all in – she was so tight, this tiny girl, but it was so worth it.


YOOOUUU FUCKIN ANIMAL LOL!
 

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As I was writing down where my gaps are in the game, I noticed that I had a trend in my approaches that impacted how I went about certain situations when doing approaches. I found that while the outward things might matter, I was not at my best in certain situations which I think cost me more than any limiting belief actually did.

So I have a habit I noticed recently, really picked up on it when I was going out a lot in recent months and approaching women. I decided to look inward for this thread because I think I found my problem which needs fixing.

I was going to make this post way more personal and longer but that would have ended up with me on my soapbox, so I'll condense it down by a lot, and it will still be long...

My realization after going out is that whenever I see attractive women who happen to look like (based on ethnic appearance usually) the kinds of women I have done well with in the past and had a lot of great experiences with, I am at ease. I can approach more naturally, more confidently, and am at my sharpest to where even rejections barely get to me that much. Usually my source is coming from good social experiences with those kinds of women growing up, having been told by such women I am hot, matching them on dating apps, having fucked a few women with that look, and seeing guys similar looking to me get with those kinds of girls.

But here's the thing, while social trends might be what they are, my mind is at ease and the approach anxiety is barely there. I've been validated by these kinds of women so much that it is almost a given that I am supposed to end up with them.

Now when I see a girl that happens to be hot, is my type, but looks a lot like women I have had bad experiences with not just on a seduction level but on a social level (being mean to me, being rude, cold, usually going for men who look nothing like me and making it clear they are not interested), I go into analysis paralysis almost. A mindfuck happens where my thoughts get bitter, defensive, and I automatically go into finding every way to find a flaw in her and go out of my way to not approach almost even though deep down I want to.

Even the few times I do approach, I am really so off mentally that it's almost like it turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy but I feel anchored by my past too. I also do not have any good references or observations to build on either.

I almost feel like I would have to overcompensate or something to get her so I avoid approaching altogether even though I may want to. I know my situation is real unique but anyone ever been there mentally?

Some part of me wants to feel the same way mentally towards the latter kinds of women than the former just to compare results but there is a mind block there...
 

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The fear is the same, and also the process. I tend to have it when I approach really really hot women as well. Mostly because I got completely shut down by the really hot type of girls when I started out with game. (I still do, but my % have increased a lot). Push yourself to approach, evaluate the situation - what did you do good and what did you fuck up?, adapt, try again. That's really the only process. You might be able to find mindsets that will help you tho, but it does not change the process.

Do you feel like you do anything different than when you approach other types of girls?
 
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Your situation isn't unique, lots of guys who get good go through something similar but have just described it differently. To be brutally honest, I think you ignore advice that you don't want to hear and doesn't fit with your narrow world view.

I went through this struggle of not being able to get my "type" 15 years ago. From my experience, there are 2 ways to break past this barrier. There is the hard way and there is an easier more unconventional way.

For me, it was the tall blonde godesses with celebrity-looking faces that were as tall or taller than me. I thought that they wouldn't a guy shorter than them or wouldn't be interest in a guy like me.

First the hard way:

There aren't that many women that are taller than me (5'11" - 180 cm), so the target pool was tiny to begin with. Even in Sweden, a country full of beautiful blondes, there were very few that were taller than me.

But I decided that no matter what happened or how badly I got blown out, I was going to learn to game them. It started terribly with them, one crash and burn after another, even though I could game girls shorter than me.

What started to work for me was to not hold anything back, go full on direct and non-verbally display everything I felt for them. Eventually I got my first one, then a 2nd a year later. But since there were so few available, it could go months between approaches. So couldn't practice enough to develop any skills.

Another drawback is me completely not seeing a target because I was preoccupied with another by the time I did spot her.

Now the easier way nad more unconventional way (and I wrote this already to you on another thread, which you completely ignored):

Instead of me learning to game my "type", I looked at how could I change the game to suit me? How could I increase the pool of targets AND change the conditions so that they would be interested in a guy like me. How could I stack the deck in my favor.

This made it SO much easier. I dated a Russian blonde that was 6'1", she would tower over me when she wore high heels. When we walked through the city holding hands, nearly every guy (and most women) would be looking at us. Then it was a Dutch woman, then a Norwegian. Then a Romanian. etc.

That is when I realized that this "type" was no longer that special.
 
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